By Nicholas Bailey (nbailey@mmaratings.net)
Sengoku: Sixth Battle, has the potential to be World Victory Road's best event to date. Unfortunately, that's not saying much. But with two grand prix finales and a few more fights with potential, let's be optimistic.
Muhammad "King Mo" Lawal vs. Fabio Silva
Lawal has enormous physical potential, and even more excitingly he is a student of the game with a deep technical understanding of wrestling and an interest in developing the same depth in his MMA career. Silva is an untechnical banger who may not have a lot of heart and certainly doesn’t have a lot of gas. Lawal isn’t quite a refined striker, but he does have reach and power, and I think he can tag Silva on the feet enough to hurt him. Even if he gets out of sorts, Lawal can most likely drive Silva through the mat with a big takedown and ground-and-pound to a finish Lawal TKO round 1.
Sergey Golyaev vs. Takanori Gomi
I’m sorry, but is Gomi Kimbo now? The guy can legitimately scrap, and hasn’t lost a step since the time he was considered one of the top lightweights in the world, so why must we watch him dismantle random euros? Gomi skeptics will look at Golyaev’s submission-rich win record and say that he’s got a shot at choking out the melon-headed Gomi while he flops around on his back. To that I say, Golyaev is not Nick Diaz or Marcus Aurelio. Sergey is going to get bombed. Gomi KO round 1.
Siyar Bahadurzada vs. Jorge Santiago
Santiago will finish what Cyborg should have. He’s better in every aspect of the game than Siyar, even if he has a bad chin and worse gas (although which is worse is debatable). Siyar is the weakest link in the tournament. Santiago is pretty well-rounded so it’s equally likely he gets a KO or a Sub, but he should finish, since his gas will get him in trouble should the fight go long. Siyar is open for leg-kicks, so maybe we could see a little of the old chop-em-down. Jorge Santiago by TKO round 1.
Kazuhiro Nakamura vs. Yuki Sasaki
Sasaki is coming off a win in a terrible fight with Yuki Kondo. He’s a sharp grappler, but he’s not really a high-quality fighter. Nakamura, for all his faults, is. Nakamura doesn’t have a lot of finishing power in any part of his game, but he’s well-rounded, game, and has great staying power. He can control this fight with his boxing and escape any sub attempts, but it’s doubtful he’ll be able to finish. Nakamura by decision.
Predicted MW Finals
I’m Predicting Santiago and Nakamura to progress to the finals. Again, Nakamura’s staying power will see him to victory, since Santiago will fade and may even get tagged in exchanges and hurt. Nakamura doesn’t have the stopping power Jorge does, but he can survive Jorge’s attacks much better than Jorge can endure his. Nakamura wins the decision here and his career gets a gentle kick in the behind as he starts over as a legit fighter at 185.
Joe Doerksen vs. Izuru Takeuchi
Fun fact: Takeuchi is 1-2 against Nate Marquardt. Joe Doerksen is a talented grappler who’s lately been getting knocked out by anyone that hit him with some power. This fight is just going to be crap, but I don’t know if Doerksen even trains anymore. Izuru will get the upset simply by wanting it more. Izuru Takeuchi by decision.
Mizuto Hirota vs. Kazunori Yokota
I don’t know either of these guys well enough, so… Striker vs. Grappler, lets go with the grappler. Yokota by decision.
Satoru Kitaoka vs. Eiji Mitsuoka
If a ground control game could be described as ‘nasty’ or ‘menacing’ Mitsuoka would have it. Kitaoka is a good grappler, but Mitsuoka is capable of smothering that, like he did to Joachim Hansen, and will. Mitsuoka by decision.
Predicted Lightweight Finals
Whoever wins Mitsuoka vs. Kitaoka would beat eithr Hirota or Yokota. That means I’m expected a Mitsuoka tournament victory. Go boring guy!
Bang Seung Hwan vs. Jorge Masvidal
In my opinion, either of these guys could beat most of the lightweights still in the tournament. Masvidal got unexpectedly plonked by Rodrigo Damm, but he’s a talented and tough fighter, and Hwan has a great brawling style that’s very exciting. I think Masvidal is more seasoned and well-rounded, so I favor him in this fight, but if Damm can plonk you, Hwan definitely has a great shot too. This will be a tough, competitive fight. Masvidal by decision.
Moise Rimbon vs. Rogerio Nogueira
Can lightning strike twice? Rogerio is the victim of the biggest “anything can happen” moment in MMA history to this date, and he’s in a position to repeat that feat here. Rimbon is an athletic, powerful guy, and a pretty good fighter, but he has no name value and is seen as nowhere near Nog’s level. He should be a walkover submission win for Rogerio, but he has the power to spring another upset if the stars align against Nogueira as they did when he stepped into the ring with Sokoudjou. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira by submission round 2.
October 29, 2008
WVR Sengoku 6 Picks and Predictions
UFC 90 Notes
By Nicholas Bailey (nbailey@mmaratings.net)
When the main event is a clunker or ends on a sour note, it's really hard for a fight card to have staying power and be remembered going forward. However, there were a lot of lessons to be learned about fighters on this card, so gamblers will be well-advised to remember UFC 90 when these guys step into the cage again.
Anderson Silva vs. Patrick Cote
Not much of a fight here, but the fact that Cote lasted as long as he did speaks to how much he’s improved the technical aspect of his standup game. Silva wasn’t as aggressive as he’s been in the past, but he still looked tight and dangerous, as expected.
Marcus Aurelio vs. Hermes Franca
This was an interesting fight. Aurelio is tough as hell, but lets fights walk away from him, as he did in this case. I knew Franca could bang and had bricks for hands, but I hadn’t seen that many leg kicks from him before. I don’t think he’s the new Thiago Alves, though, since the kicks weren’t that hard and the damage was mostly done by pure volume and Aurelio not blocking them at all.
Sean Sherk vs. Tyson Griffin
A lot of people were probably surprised by how tight Sherk’s boxing was. I was certainly surprised that the entire fight was a boxing match, but I knew Sherk could really work the sweet science, even if he still has almost no power.
Dan Miller vs. Matt Horwich
This fight surprised me, as I did not expect Horwich to out-grapple Miller like that. I’m not sure Miller really deserved to win the fight.
Rich Clementi vs. Gray Maynard
Rich did well in the first round, but Maynard was just too much to handle in the end. It's surprising how 'seasoned' Maynard seems in the ring, given his very small number of career fights.
Fabricio Werdum vs. Junior Dos Santos
I was surprised, not just that Santos won, but that Werdum was basically finished by one punch. Fabricio seemed to be a real tough dude, surviving protracted standup fights against Arlovski, Sergei, Overeem, Nogueira, and Gonzaga. I guess it goes back to something I’ve said earlier – heavyweights have so much power that any one of them is liable to get knocked out at any point. This was a real missed opportunity, as several people said that Santos was a live underdog, and I abstained from any involvement in the fight. Santos has good hands, but I'm not sold on him being a top-level fighter until I seem some wrestling and ground work from him.
Josh Koscheck vs. Thiago Alves
Koscheck must be insane to have taken this fight on short notice-he had a very good thing going in the division, and Alves is a monster. Another insane thing was how quickly he recovered whenever he was hurt. Alves is the most dangerous guy in the weight class, by far, exploding lethally at any moment. That said, I still think GSP can take him down and crush him on the ground. Koscheck has neglected his wrestling training, beefing up his standup. I expect he’ll be drilling it much harder now that he cannot take down anyone in the division at will, as he previously could. Koscheck is still slated to fight Yoshiyuki Yoshida on December 10, which is crazy. I’d imagine it’d take much longer than that for his leg to recover after it was pulped by Alves.
Thales Leites vs. Drew McFedries
Leites got hit, hard, but still has a good chin. McFedries really is dead on the ground, although Leites is very nasty. No real surprises here.
Post UFC 90 Notes
By Eric Kamander (eric@mmaratings.net)
Nicholas Bailey is away on vacation, so I'm doing my best to fill in for him.
UFC 90 was certainly a solid card. Going into it I wondered if it would compete with UFC 84 for best event of the year. Now I doubt that will be the case. Too bad we were not able to see more of the prelims (televised at least).
Before I get to the fights, let me just say "What's up with referees Todd Fredrickson and David Smith?!? These are the worst referee ever!!!"
Middleweight champ Anderson Silva vs. Patrick Cote
The most interesting part of this fight wound up being trying to figure out what Silva was thinking. Was he toying with Cote? Was he trying to give the fans their moneys worth? Did he have a grand plan? Or did he just have a problem countering a fighter that was trying to counter him?
Either way, the fight was very disappointing; due to Cote's knee collapsing quickly after he was found bragging about making it to the third round.
Did his knee really give out? (I certainly could not see anything in any of the dozen or so instant replays.) Was Silva mad?
Was Silva being disrespectful?
Obviously this match brought far more questions than answers.
Do we want to see a rematch?
Thiago Alves vs. Josh Koscheck
This was a much more predictable fight. Koscheck could not hang with Alves on the feet in spite of his improved stand up. Koscheck had a hard time taking Alves down, and when he did Alves showed a good defensive guard.
I have to give Koscheck credit, he is tough. Neither Alves nor St. Pierre were able to finish him.
Fabricio Werdum vs. Junior dos Santos
What did we learn in this fight? Well if you saw the video of dos Santos hitting the pads then you already knew this was going to happen (kidding).
Personally I think we just confirmed what we already knew, which is that Werdum is a lousy striker.
Tyson Griffin vs. Sean Sherk
Clearly the best fight on the card. Was Sherk's striking so much better now than when he fought Penn? Is Penn just that much better of a striker? Or does it just go to show what a few inches of reaches can do?
I think maybe all of the above.
Now we have to see what happens between Florian and Stevenson. Either way, we're going to see a rematch, either Sherk vs. Florian, or Penn vs. Sherk or Stevenon.
Rich Clementi vs. Gray Maynard
this fight got a lot of hate from the fans, but I thought it was a good, solid fight. Both fighters were always very active whether on the feet or scrambling for position. They just happened to neutralize each a bit. It was never a stalemate, and at no time should the fight have been stood up.
Thales Leites vs. Drew McFedries
Breaking news...Drew McFedries has no ground game.
I'm surprised Thales Leites was not on the main card, since theoretically he could be a potential opponent for Anderson SIlva.
Spencer Fisher vs. Shannon Gugerty
At first this seems like a step down for Fisher, but Gugerty gave him quite a fight, so maybe it wasn't. It's a shame that such a technical and exciting fighter as Fisher, who was once a title contender, is now established on the under cards.
Matt Horwich vs. Dan Miller
This was a nice little scrap. Not much else to say.
Marcus Aurelio vs. Hermes Franca
Wow! Marcus had absolutely nothing for Hermes. It's amazing to me that any of the judges (two to be exact) gave rounds to Marcus. After that beating I really don't know how Marcus can show his face in the cage again.
Josh Burkman vs. Pete Sell
Loosing to Pete Sell...where do you go from there? Ask Phil Baroni I guess.
Nic and I both went 8-2 on this card. From a betting perspective,...honestly I can't even interpret Nic's bets and parlays. All I know is I won big time on my underdog bet on dos Santos at MMA Playground.
Nicholas Bailey we be back soon for his unique brand of analysis and advice.
My Fight Pick History
October 25, 2008
UFC 90: Silva vs. Cote
UFC 90: Silva vs. Côté was held on October 25, 2008 at the Allstate Arena in Rosemont, Illinois.
In the main event UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva faced off against Patrick Côté. Play-by-Play
UFC 90 Picks and Predictions UFC 90 Breakdown: The Main Card, The Undercard.
| Match | Winner | Loser | Method | Round | Time |
| 1 | Pete Sell | Josh Burkman | Decision (Unanimous) | 3 | 5:00 |
| 2 | Hermes Franca | Marcus Aurelio | Decision (Unanimous) | 3 | 5:00 |
| 3 | Dan Miller | Matt Horwich | Decision (Unanimous) | 3 | 5:00 |
| 4 | Spencer Fisher | Shannon Gugerty | Submission (Triangle Choke) | 3 | 3:56 |
| 5 | Thales Leites | Drew McFedries | Submission (Rear Naked choke) | 1 | 1:18 |
| 6 | Sean Sherk | Tyson Griffin | Decision (Unanimous) | 3 | 5:00 |
| 7 | Junior dos Santos | Fabricio Werdum | TKO (Punches) | 1 | 1:21 |
| 8 | Gray Maynard | Rich Clementi | Decision (Unanimous) | 3 | 5:00 |
| 9 | Thiago Alves | Josh Koscheck | Decision (Unanimous) | 3 | 5:00 |
| 10 | Anderson Silva | Patrick Cote | TKO (Injured knee) | 3 | 0:39 |
* Thiago Alves was originally scheduled to face Diego Sanchez, who was forced to withdraw due to injury, and replaced by Josh Koscheck.
* Thales Leites was originally scheduled to face Goran Reljic, who was forced to withdraw due to injury.
* Hermes Franca was originally scheduled to face Gleison Tibau, who was forced to withdraw due to injury.
* Spencer Fisher was originally supposed to face Melvin Guillard, who was pulled from the card and replaced by Shannon Gugerty.
* Matt Horwich was originally supposed to face Ricardo Almeida, who was replaced by Dan Miller. Read More......
UFC 90: Silva vs. Cote - 10. Anderson Silva vs. Patrick Cote
Middleweight championship bout: Anderson Silva defeated Patrick Cote via TKO (knee injury) at 0:39 of Round 3.
Read More......UFC 90: Silva vs. Cote - 9. Josh Koscheck vs. Thiago Alves
Welterweight bout: Thiago Alves defeated Josh Koscheck via Unanimous Decision (30-27, 29-28, 30-27).
Read More......UFC 90: Silva vs. Cote - 8. Rich Clementi vs. Gray Maynard
Lightweight bout: Gray Maynard defeated Rich Clementi via Unanimous Decision (30-27, 30-27, 30-27).
Read More......UFC 90: Silva vs. Cote - 7. Junior dos Santos vs. Fabricio Werdum
Heavyweight bout: Junior dos Santos defeated Fabricio Werdum via KO (uppercut) at 1:20 of Round 1.
Junior dos Santos was awarded $65,000 for Knockout of the Night.
UFC 90: Silva vs. Cote - 6. Sean Sherk vs. Tyson Griffin
Lightweight bout: Sean Sherk defeated Tyson Griffin via Unanimous Decision (30-27, 29-28, 29-28).
Sean Sherk and Tyson Griffin were each awarded $65,000 for Fight of the Night.
UFC 90: Silva vs. Cote - 5. Thales Leites vs. Drew McFedries
Middleweight bout: Thales Leites defeated Drew McFedries via Submission (rear naked choke) at 1:18 of round 1.
Read More......UFC 90: Silva vs. Cote - 4. Spencer Fisher vs. Shannon Gugerty
Lightweight bout: Spencer Fisher defeated Shannon Gugerty via Submission (triangle choke) at 3:56 of round 3.
Spencer Fisher was awarded $65,000 for Submission of the Night.
UFC 90: Silva vs. Cote - 3. Dan Miller vs. Matt Horwich
Middleweight bout: Dan Miller defeated Matt Horwich via Unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28).
Read More......UFC 90: Silva vs. Cote - 2. Hermes Franca vs. Marcus Aurelio
Lightweight bout: Hermes Franca defeated Marcus Aurelio via Unanimous Decision (30-27, 29-28, 29-28).
Read More......UFC 90: Silva vs. Cote - 1. Pete Sell vs. Josh Burkman
Welterweight bout: Pete Sell defeated Josh Burkman via Unanimous Decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28).
Read More......UFC 90: Silva vs. Cote (Predictions)
Click the stars to rate how good you think it will be. Click here for the official line-up.
UFC 90: Silva vs. Côté is to be held October 25, 2008 at the Allstate Arena in Rosemont, Illinois.
The main event will be UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva facing off against Patrick Côté who is replacing an injured Yushin Okami.
The scheduled bout between Thales Leites and Goran Reljic was scratched from the card due to an injury suffered by Reljic. Drew McFedries has been chosen as Reljic's replacement. Also, the bout between Gray Maynard and Rich Clementi has been moved to the main card.
Yet another injury has struck this card. Diego Sanchez suffered an injury while training and has been forced to pull out. Josh Koscheck has stepped in to fight Thiago Alves. Koscheck was previously scheduled to face Yoshiyuki Yoshida at UFC: Fights for the Troops.
Melvin Guillard was slated to fight Spencer Fisher, but was replaced by Shannon Gugerty. Ricardo Almeida was replaced by Dan Miller due to an injury and also Marcus Aurelio replaces injured Gleison Tibau.
UFC 90 Picks and Predictions UFC 90 Breakdown: The Main Card, The Undercard.
UFC 90 Weigh-in Results:
Main card:
Anderson Silva (184) vs. Patrick Cote (183)
Josh Koscheck (170) vs. Thiago Alves (171)
Rich Clementi (156) vs. Gray Maynard (155)
Fabricio Werdum (256) vs. Junior dos Santos (234)
Sean Sherk (156) vs. Tyson Griffin (155)
Preliminary card:
Thales Leites (186) vs. Drew McFedries (186)
Spencer Fisher (155) vs. Shannon Gugerty (156)
Dan Miller (185) vs. Matt Horwich (186)
Hermes Franca (156) vs. Marcus Aurelio (156)
Josh Burkman (171)* vs. Pete Sell (170)
* Josh Burkman, who originally weighed-in at 173 pounds, successfully made weight (171) on his second attempt.
October 24, 2008
The DOs and DONTs of Starting a Major MMA Promotion
By Nicholas Bailey (nbailey@mmaratings.net)
As yet another organization promised to be “bigger than the UFC” flails about in its death throes, with contracted fighters entering limbo that will cost us quality fights in the prime of their careers and investors weeping over nigh-unbelievable amounts of debt (Calling USGOV Light Heavyweight Champ Ben “Helicopter” Bernake – where’s our MMA bailout?) it’s time to go back over the classic mistakes all upstart promotions up until this point have made, and maybe even recommend a few of the things that some of managed to do right.
DO NOT plan on being profitable from your first major show. This is really the “do not get into a land war in asia” of MMA promotional blunders. Kick-starting a top-level MMA promotion from nothing to profits, success, and a mainstream audience in one heavily-advertised show is the equivalent of jumping out of a car at 100 miles an hour and trying to start running really fast when you hit the ground. It’s a ludicrous concept, yet we continually see promotions (YAMMA, the rebooted WFA, K-1 MMA in the US, ShootBox, etc. ad nauseum) make all future plans contingent on roaring success right off the bat. EliteXC basically did the same thing, although they had deep-pocketed lenders in place to continually finance their failure. The UFC’s success doesn’t just come from spending money on fighters and advertising. They have a very strong brand and could put on a card full of nobodies and still get a lot of casual fans buying in simply to “see this weekend’s UFC”. That doesn’t happen overnight. It takes a long time for it to sink in to the public consciousness. This doesn’t mean you cannot possibly take on the UFC, it just means if you’re going to go at them head-on by trying to run competing shows from the get-go, getting in bidding wars for top talent, etc, you had better have extremely deep pockets and be willing to lose money for a long time. Affliction may actually fit into this category if they are willing to continue promoting MMA at a loss for the foreseeable future, simply to promote their clothing and keep its hardcore image strong.
DO plan on very modest revenues in the beginning. If you’re running a cost-effective regional show, like Palace Fighting Championships or Strikeforce, then you can be profitable very quickly, since even modest revenues from a sellout crowd will outpace tightly controlled expenses.
DO NOT hire live music or otherwise waste money on non-MMA related production. People like pyrotechnics, promotional videos, and quality stage furnishings. They help showcase the fights and lend an air of excitement and theater, they can look good on TV and increase excitement for your next event. Megadeth mumbling through a couple songs or even worse, some horrible DJ and a troupe of go-go dancers do nothing to sell tickets or excite people for the show, and they are a gigantic money pit. Megadeth doesn’t perform for free, and it really just comes off as nothing more than an ostentatious burning of money, reminiscent of a super-sweet-sixteen from MTV.
DO hire professionals that have produced an MMA show before. It’s amazing that, even with all the money spent on the various accoutrement of success and the expertise available to them through their relationship with CBS, EliteXC’s debut on television was marred by production difficulties, delays, overruns, and general unprofessionalism. This is yet another reason not to expect a roaring success from your debut show—I have yet to see one that doesn’t have all kinds of growing pains and production snafus. As a corollary, don’t involve Stephen Quadros or Mauro Ranallo. They only have sentimental value to hardcore fans, who will be watching your show anyway, because they’re hardcores, and other than that Stephen and Mauro are just sub-par announcers.
DO NOT hire famous fighters to do anything except fight. Bas commenting, Frank Shamrock explaining there are actually rules to the sport like it’s still 2000, for a promotion on mainstream broadcast TV in the year 2008, the IFL coaches (oh there you are again Bas and Frank). First of all, many of them are lazy and do a terrible job (I still love you though, Bas). Frank Shamrock is terrified of cameras.
Nobody tunes in to see these guys not fight, and because they are professional fighters, they won’t get out of bed in the morning without a big check in their hand. Fighters like Bas Rutten and Frank Shamrock have made a cottage industry out of milking upstart promotions for money in exchange for a supposed whiff of legitimacy. I can’t fault Frank or Bas for it, the guys deserve to be paid for pioneering the sport, but its bad business for a promoter. Not only is it a useless money sink, but it doesn’t look good when your commentator can probably beat your headliners. This rule does not apply in any way to Don Frye. He looks great on camera, does commentary anyone can enjoy, and mans the whole event up like bear-trap aftershave.
DO hire fighters that are famous in the region you intend to put the shows on. Even if it’s just a bunch of jobbers from a local gym, every one of those guys has friends, family, and connections to the community. This can help fill out your Arena and get you lots of ticket sales. Hawaiian promoters like Icon are especially good at this, probably having lucked into it just trying to save on airfare and accommodation. This requires on-the-ground knowledge of the area you’re promoting in, so it would definitely be worthwhile to bring in a local promoter as a consultant. This is the reason the Frank Shamrock vs. Cesar Gracie travesty was a commercial success.
DO NOT throw away money for free TV exposure. For those of you that thought that EliteXC had to be profitable because they were on tv (you must not have read my previous article), they were basically paying CBS to put them on tv. EliteXC lost money on every show, spending millions of dollars on fighter purses, promotion, event rental, etc, yet CBS took basically all the revenue from advertising. EliteXC gave CBS a valuable product in exchange for exposure they were planning on monetizing somewhere down the line. Now, they sure got a lot of exposure and attention, but they never got around to monetizing it. The UFC could be on free TV tomorrow if Dana White called up a broadcaster and offered to lose tons of money in exchange for publicity (when Dana does this, it’s called Ultimate Fight Night). However, the UFC is raking in money hand over fist on their pay-per-view products, and if they enter the free TV market, it will be on their own terms.
DO act like a clown in the MMA media for free exposure. Dana white’s video blogs going on anti-PC rants against ProElite, The Shaw family’s ridiculous antics and claims, the feud with KJ Noons. The mainstream media is above reporting on this, but forums and the MMA press eat it up. This means that you can still present a legitimate, businesslike face to the world at large while garnering interest and keeping your name on the lips of the hardcore fans that follow the sport on the internet. $kala may be a buffoon and a clown, but you better believe he’ll make news if he decides to do an interview anywhere, especially if he says something idiotic and controversial. Because really, who cares if people you don’t know think you’re an idiot, so long as they buy tickets to your show.
DO NOT introduce some gimmick intended to be the next evolution of the sport. I’m looking at you YAMMA and IFL. Nobody cares—they want to see fights. The only gimmick that currently works is less rules, and that only works in RioHeroes in Brazil and limits your mainstream appeal in the US. What people expect from MMA is well-ingrained at this point, and any change in that reeks of gimmickry because that’s all it is. A successful female-focused MMA promotion could change this, and would be effective, since everyone likes cute girls, the whole 'foxy boxing' aspect has mass appeal, not to mention the fact that some girls can really throw down and produce entertaining, high-quality fights. Gina Carano in various states of undress is a 'gimmick' that will work with a certain audience until the end of time, but I really don’t think there’s any room for any other revolution in the sport.
DO match up your fights so that you benefit regardless of the outcome. If you’re going to arrange your fights such that you require your star to win and have no narrative in place should he be defeated by the challenger, you could save tons of effort of putting on your own fights and just throw your money away gambling on someone else’s. This is something that the UFC does extremely well. Not only do they have a such a deep talent pool and a brand so strong that they are far bigger than any one fighter (as we’ve seen with Arlovski, Couture, and Sylvia) but they control the narrative, such that when Chuck or GSP are upset by Rashad or Serra, while some loss is unavoidable, much of what the star loses is gained by the challenger, because that challenger has been developed and presented as a legitimate challenge. The only time in recent memory that the UFC has violated this rule was Royce Gracie vs. Matt Hughes, although I’m sure that was a calculated risk, and a bridge that Zuffa cleared with ease.
DO NOT spend money selling or developing non-MMA products. The IFL had Jerseys and trading cards for teams nobody had any emotional connection to and fighters nobody had heard of. I think they sold a couple dozen of each. The biggest failure of business dilution may be EliteXC’s social networking site. What Social Networking Site you say? Exactly my point. I was as shocked as you are, when going over their financial statements, to notice that ProElite spent millions of dollars developing and promoting a social networking website that was supposed to be facebook or myspace for MMA. Why did they do this when they could barely afford to put on shows? Must have been the same reason they bought tons of small promotions when they didn’t know how to run a big one; they love losing money for no reason.
Following these simple rules is no guarantee of success, although I will say that breaking any of them will certainly push any promotion towards failure. Even if a promotion should follow them and still fail, at least new and interesting mistakes will be made instead of the same predictably unsuccessful pattern that results from not learning from the mistakes of the past.
October 23, 2008
UFC 90 Picks and Predictions
By Nicholas Bailey (nbailey@mmaratings.net)
The biggest fights on this card are a tale of two replacements. First you have Cote, replacing a much more deserving (and interesting) Yushin Okami after Okami suffered a hand injury in July, and the recently streaking Cote stepped up as the sacrificial lamb.
The second replacement was a surprisingly late one for the level of talent involved. With Diego Sanchez injured, killing what was previously the most exciting fight on the card, Josh Koscheck has shown some serious cojones in stepping up against welterweight wrecking machine Thiago Alves, on very short notice. Koscheck says he was already in training for a fight in December, and will be ready to go, but I question the wisdom of fighting someone the caliber of Thiago Alves on short notice.
From top to bottom this card is full of champs, contenders, and hot prospects, which is pretty exciting. It even has some good betting odds, so maybe I can repair my currently tattered prediction record and public wagering history.
Middleweight champ Anderson Silva (-630) vs. Patrick Cote (+480)
Sadly this is a very uninteresting main event. Cote only recently developed any kind of ground game, can't wrestle very well, and only recently sharpened up his standup to be technical in the slightest. Cote brings a decent muay thai game, good power, and a phenomenally tough chin into the octagon. That's all he has to work with against the champ. Unfortunately that chin is most likely just going to prolong his punishment.
Anderson Silva. We know him, we love him. He is head and shoulders above everyone that steps into the ring with him, to the point where he can play around with, dance, and generally clown upon the former king of the division. On the feet he's too talented, too fast, too powerful, and too accurate. He can't wrestle that well, but Cote doesn't benefit from taking the fight to the ground, as Silva can probably submit him.
Long story short, this fight will only be notable if Cote scores the upset. While anytime you have professional athletes in the ring throwing blows, someone could get knocked out, I think the most likely upset scenario is if Cote somehow causes an injury to one of Silva's bum knees. Anderson Silva by KO round 1.
At -630, the odds are very long against Silva. However, those odds are fair should Anderson win only about 86% of the time. Since I don't think Cote wins this fight more than 1 time in 10, I have made a multi-unit play on this line, as well as making it a basis for several Parlays I have put together. I'm especially confident in this pick because there's very little variability in the style matchup. Cote is simply not a multidimensional fighter, so you don't have to worry about unexpected events in any respect except for the striking.
Thiago Alves (+135) vs. Josh Koscheck (-160) 
This is a much more exciting fight. Alves is coming off his career-making knockout of former welterweight khan Matt Hughes, and Koscheck is trying to re-ignite his promise after a humiliating out-pointing at the hands of current kingpin Georges St. Pierre.
Against Alves, Hughes basically sleepwalked through the fight until Thiago put him to bed for good. He couldn't get comfortable on his feet, was desperate for the takedown, and basically got thrown off far too often. When he did get the takedown, he struggled to advance position and had difficulty keeping Alves from getting back up. While Kos will similarly be hurt by being unable to setup his takedowns with strikes, I expect him to find takedowns with more success than Hughes did, since he's faster, more athletic, and a better wrestler too. Kos has a much different top game than Hughes, so Alves may have a bit more trouble. He simply looks to do damage and beat his opponent up, as his teammate Jon Fitch did so well to Alves back at Ultimate Fight Night 5. However, Kos is not Fitch. His takedowns are much faster and sharper, but his grappling is much more rudimentary and his grind isn't as fierce. Kos bloodied up Chris Lytle, but Lytle did very little to protect himself. Even if Alves ends up underneath Kos, the struggle to hold him there while still defending submissions will keep Josh from dishing out too much damage.
On the feet, Josh has improved his striking a lot, but that might work to his disadvantage. He has improved and his athleticism helps him a ton, but he still strikes like he's hitting a heavy bag and falls over every time he throws a headkick. He isn't creative or flowing; he's very formulaic and predictable. That is very bad news against someone who can counterstrike as powerfully as Alves. Against their shared opponent, Chris Lytle, Josh struggled whenever they exchanged, while Alves was able to start picking him apart within the first few exchanges, countering Lytle's initial combination the third time he threw it, landing a big shot and opening a bigger cut. Furthermore, when Kos got tagged hard against Hazelett and Lytle, his instinctive reaction in both cases was to throw wild punches in return, either to hurt his opponent in return or force them to back off. Against Alves that kind of flailing will just result in a finish.
While Alves' leg kicks could both be great for taking away Kos' speed and power in his takedowns and hand over legs for easy takedowns, I don't expect to see them used early and often in the fight. Against both Karo and Hughes the normally extremely aggressive Alves was much more passive and threw very few leg kicks. Of course, he ended up knocking them both out. I think Alves will make Koscheck desperate on the feet, avoid or stand up out of the takedowns Kos manages, and eventually catch him with something permanent. It certainly wouldn't be the first time Alves caught someone with a knee on the way in. The man is nasty. He has tremendous power in his punches, leg kicks, and of course knees, and he times them very well, exploding into any window of opportunity. Alves by KO round 2.
Since I predict Alves to win outright, at underdog odds of +135, I'm wild about him. Kos can't be counted out, due to his athleticism, but he doesn't have a good way to finish this fight, and Thiago has several that are a danger from bell to bell. This is a play for a unit and several parlays for me.
Fabricio Werdum (-850) vs. Junior dos Santos (+600)
Cigano isn't a total can and has real skills, but this fight is basically a placeholder until Werdum can get his title shot. Cigano is nobody in the division, and hasn't shown anything that would make one think he could beat Werdum. Oddsmakers don't want you to have anything to do with this fight, and you shouldn't. The only bright spot is that maybe Werdum will be able to flex his standup game, and we can see if he's progressed beyond throwing slap haymakers. Werdum by TKO round 1.
Tyson Griffin (+210) vs. Sean Sherk (-260)
The most interesting aspect of this matchup will be whether Tyson Griffin can force another highlight-filled fight and win fight of the night yet again, or if Sherk's style will prevail and we'll see another compelling, although not electrifying, demonstration of wrestling, ground control and guard passing. Tyson better hope this is fight of the night, because he's not going to get any win bonuses.
Tyson is a wrestling-based all-rounder. He can strike a bit, although that's probably the weakest part of his game. He has good wrestling, strong submission defense, and great physical power for the division. Sean Sherk is a shark. He's hyper-evolved to execute one game extremely effectively. He is an absolute rock of muscle, and has some of the most dominant wrestling, if not the most dominant, at 155lbs. He matches that with superb control and positioning, extreme cardio, and a wealth of fight experience. He's also never, in his career, finished a single fighter that was tough OR good on the ground (aside from a very young and inexperienced Karo Parisyan). Tyson is also not much of a finisher, lacking the kind of firepower in any aspect of the game to put away top fighters.
I think Sherk can outwrestle Tyson at least as well as Frankie Edgar did, and maintain stronger control. If Tyson can get his stumpy little legs under him, he may be able to power to his feet and initiate a scramble, where he excels. Should Tyson get to his feet, he will find himself being outboxed by Sherk's tiny T-rex arms. Sherk has very good boxing, although he really lacks the ability to hurt his opponents with his hands. Tyson simply won't be able to put together the strikes to outpoint Sherk or hurt him. Sean Sherk By Decision.
I think that -260 is about a fair line for Sherk here, since Tyson does have the physical power to explode into an opportunity if he should see one, but if Sherk starts drifting back towards the -200 he opened at on some books, I would recommend a play on him there.
Rich Clementi (+200) vs. Gray Maynard (-240)
An interesting clash of the old and the new, as well as styles. Rich Clementi is a former journeyman fighter that has reinvented himself and made a career resurgence by cleaning out the dregs of the UFC Prelim pool. Gray is undefeated, but has less than a sixth of the number of fights Clementi has. Nevertheless, his last victory is the most impressive either fighter has, with the dominant wrestling-based decision over highly-touted wrestler Frankie Edgar. While beating Edgar is impressive, I think it's important to remember that Edgar was basically hand-tailored to lose to Maynard's style, being massively outsized and offering nothing more than wrestling, where Maynard could meet him head-on and dominate him.
Stylistically, this is a much more interesting matchup, as Clementi is a moderate threat on the feet as well as with submissions, but cannot compete with respect to wrestling. This fight will take place in the location, and at the pace Maynard decides. Considering how badly he gassed at times on the Ultimate Fighter, Maynard may seek a slow pace, although he seemed to cruise straight through the fight with Edgar.
Clementi has won wrestling and control-based decisions in his last two fights, so he may be running into a wall here, but given his skills in Gray's weaker areas, Gray's inexperience, and Gray's past gas problems, I would say Clementi represents a very live dog in this fight. Maynard is most likely going to be able to control him for three rounds, but it's going to be a competitive fight, and Rich simply has more ways to finish the fight than Gray. Gray Maynard by Decision.
At the underdog odds of +200 or more, I like a play on Clementi here. He simply has a lot going in his favor if he can find a way around the elephant of Gray's strength and wrestling.
Thales Leites (-445) vs. Drew McFedries (+365)
We know what Drew McFedries brings to the table. He's a striker with an aggressive, power-hitting style, that is one of the hardest hitters at 185. He isn't a particularly good wrestler, and his submission defense is very porous. Leites is a phenomenal jiu-jitsu guy that gets by on the feet by being very tough and a hard hitter.
Leites has gassed out late in his fights, but still been able to perform. Drew hasn't been outside of the first round, win or lose, in his UFC career, and I don't see why this fight will be any different.
Leites fans should be excited for another arm-triangle victory for Thales, but they should be concerned with the fact that Leites' primary defense on the feet is his chin. While a chin may beat a slugger in boxing, in MMA it's never good to test your beard against big hitters. While McFedries does have that 'punchers chance' with his scary power, Leites is rightly the overwhelming favorite in this fight because he has a very solid and dangerous top game and is generally a much higher-quality fighter. Thales Leites by Submission Round 1.
It's attractive to look and see someone who can win a fight at any point with a knockout at +350, but really McFedries needs much longer odds to be worth a play, since he's so badly outgunned.
Spencer Fisher (-345) vs. Shannon Gugerty (+275)
Shannon Gugerty is a grappler with a great submissions rate, but a record full of the quality of fighters you'd expect from an up-and-comer, consisting mostly of inexperienced guys and club fighters. He's on a streak now, but he's lost to the only two fighters he's fought with double-digit numbers of fights. Spencer Fisher is much more of a known commodity, a versatile and aggressive striker with some decent submissions and terrible takedown defense.
This should be a pretty exciting fight, and I would recommend no betting on it, so just get some popcorn and enjoy! Spencer Fisher by TKO round 2.
Matt Horwich (+275) vs. Dan Miller (-325)
This battle of IFL veterans is a showcase fight, as well as a entrance test, for grappling prospect Dan Miller. Like his brother Jim last weekend, faces a journeyman grappler that he should be able to outgrapple. If Jim can put Horwich away early, then maybe he'll be ready to fight some of the mainstays of the UFC Prelims, like Alessio Sakara. Otherwise, he'll need to be nurtured and developed for a bit longer, as he's still a developing talent. Dan Miller by submission round 2.
Marcus Aurelio (+160) vs. Hermes Franca (-180)
Perhaps the most compelling of the undercard matchups here, this fight will rehabilitate one of these former contenders. Both guys are probably just glad they aren't facing a top position grappler. Franca has strung together a couple of losses by fighting wrestlers that could take him down and avoid his tactic of "pretending to be asleep for a round and a half and then exploding into a single armbar attempt before gassing terribly and giving up on the fight" and Aurelio has lost 3 out of his last six fights to wrestlers that could work away in his guard.
Aurelio is the better pure jiu-jitsu player in this fight, and could most likely work an aggressive game and win the fight if he could regularly score dominant position. Franca is a good enough grappler to be relatively safe in Aurelio's guard, although I don't expect him to get much going there. The big difference in this fight will be striking. Aurelio was outstruck by Clay Guida, which doesn't speak highly of his skills as a boxer. Furthermore, he seemed content to let that fight drift away from him on the feet. Franca isn't a sharp and technical striker, but he does have chops, and he certainly has power in his winging haymakers and his knees, and should be able to easily outscore Aurelio's lukewarm standup skills. Aurelio is a very tough guy, so unless he takes a shot right on the button, it will be very difficult to hurt him.
Both of these guys have a tendency to gas. With Franca it's always a question of how seriously did he train, and Aurelio does horrible things to his body in order to cut weight, which hurts him later in fights. So this fight may be decided by 'who gasses first' although I see this as a wash between the two.
Both of these fighters receive top-dollar pay but are developing mid-card records due to being given tough fights. I'm sure Dana will be glad to be able to renegotiate with the loser. I think Franca will just be too much on the feet for Aurelio, making him expend energy and take risks to get takedowns, where the fight will stall out and nobody will score significantly, making the standup action the deciding factor in the fight. Hermes Franca by decision.
I think that at -180 and better Hermes is a solid bet, as Aurelio's ability to submit from his back is usually over-valued.
Josh Burkman (-220) vs. Pete Sell (+180)
Josh Burkman is a very physically gifted guy that has just never been able to put it all together in MMA. Pete Sell is a tough, strong guy that is supposed to be a submission expert, fights like a slugger, and hasn't submitted anyone since Phil Baroni.
Burkman has lost to submission several times, so at first glance you might expect him to do so again, but if you look at the people who have submitted him, you can see they're pretty high-level guys. Burkman is tough to finish in any way, having a very good chin on top of solid wrestling, great physical power, and submission defense that can use those gifts. On the feet he tends to throw nothing but big power shots, gassing himself out quickly, but Sell has gone down to those kinds of shots throughout his career, and I don't expect the dehydration of cutting to 170 for the first time will do him any favors in that respect. Josh Burkman by TKO round 2.
From a betting perspective, there's slight value in Burkman if his lines drop back to -200 or better. Not enough for a straight bet, but I've included him in a few of my small parlays.
My Straight Plays:
3u on Anderson Silva at -600 to win .5u
1u on Rich Clementi at +225 to win 2.25u
1u on Thiago Alves at +130 to win 1.3u
My Parlays:
.25u on Clementi and Franca to win .88u
.25u on Alves, Silva, and Clementi to win 1.78u
.25u on Alves, Silva and Franca to win .77u
.33u on Alves, Burkman, and Silva to win .98u
.08u on Alves, Silva, Clementi, and Franca to win .93u
Anderson Silva here also represents the first leg of a variety of Parlays involving different combinations of Quinton Jackson, Rodrigo Nogueira, Joe Stevenson, Forrest Griffin, and Rich Franklin winning their respective fights.
General Public Prediction Record
Public Bet History
October 21, 2008
Does Werdum Deserve a Shot Yet?
By Garth Hansen (garthhansen@mmaratings.net)
Fabricio Werdum has appeared to be the odd man out in the UFC's latest heavyweight shakedown. The four-man psuedo-tournament soon to open included the richly (rich being the key word) undeserving Brock Lesnar, and Frank Mir, the coach opposite Interim Champion Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira. The other dude in the mix is Randy Couture, who the UFC never disavowed as champ. So Werdum is pissed, because he's out of the mix. Should he be?
The last fight I saw Werdum in was his TKO win over Brandon Vera. He also holds a TKO win over Gabriel Gonzaga in the UFC, and a loss to Andrei Arlovski. Does this resume qualify him for a title shot? In his two wins he's looked good. Despite Vera's complaints, I felt it was a justified stoppage, if not a good one. The win over Gonzaga was dominant. Both wins are over guys who seem to have been mainly hype...two guys who came in with a splash, destroying a few opponents, then tapering off or dropping out altogether.
Werdum says: “I didn’t like that they put Brock Lesnar against Randy Couture...I think that it would be fair to put ‘Minotauro’ Nogueira against Couture -- it had to be a fight between these two. Despite having been champion once, I’ve not found it fair that Frank Mir is fighting for the belt. I had two great victories where I was very superior to my opponents, Gabriel Gonzaga and Brandon Vera. I’ve won by myself - not the judges."
Fair enough. Mir's inclusion can be chalked up to circumstances...he was supposed to lose to Brock Lesnar and set up some big-money pro-wrestling star PPV with Lesnar's newfound legitimacy. A timely spine-shot and kneebar nixed that idea. Lesnar's inclusion, as noted repeatedly, is money. People like the musclebound freak, or like to hate on him.
I don't think Werdum's run in the UFC is so spectacular as to make him the set-in-stone #1 contender, by any means. People seem to forget how easily he got handled by Andrei Arlovski. Andrei pretty much toyed with him, and spent the whole fight looking for opportunities knock out the big Brazillian. So, two wins over what appear to be also-rans in the UFC heavyweight division, and one loss to a top five heavyweight. Good, but not great.
Brock Lesnar brings in money. Frank Mir screwed up their plans by winning, in excellent BJJ fashion, Big Nog holds a belt, and Randy holds a belt. Werdum is indeed odd man out, but I don't think he even makes a strong case to be upset about that.
While his current record puts him in the waiting room for the contender's area, his next fight is a bit of a slap in the face. One would think they'd put Werdum up against a seasoned heavyweight, or another contender with some Octagon experience, but instead he faces off with Junior “Cigano” dos Santos, a rookie UFC fighter. While dos Santos may or may not end up being a great fighter, he's unknown to the US public, unlikely to garner much attention short of a spectacular KO, and a step sideways, at best, for Werdum everywhere outside of Brazil.
With the death of EliteXC, there's a chance for some more accomplished heavyweights who wish to fight in the U.S. to end up on UFC cards, and some intriguing matchups will present themselves. Werdum seems to have been assigned gatekeeper status, a moniker hated by contenders and adored by jobbers. His frustration is justifiable only at being handed a fight that does nothing positive for his career, barring of course something spectacular happening. As far as conclusion in the tournament? Wait in line, and win your fights.
October 20, 2008
Post UFC 89 Notes
By Nicholas Bailey (nbailey@mmaratings.net)
UFC 89 mostly turned out the way I expected, although it did feature several fighters (Hardy, Taylor, Miller, Cane) firmly establishing themselves as fighters to watch in the future. Aside from only featuring divisionally important matchups in two fights (the LHW attractions), the only complaint I would have about UFC 89 was that it featured next to no groundwork. I expected this going in, because of the matchmaking, but I’m only now wondering if the matches were made with that in mind, as a sop to the banger-friendly UK market. It’s possible Zuffa dumbed down their product to appeal to the casual brawl fans, but it’s also possible that’s simply what happens when you use that many UK-based fighters on a card.
Michael Bisping defeats Chris Leben by Decision (Unanimous) 30-27, 30-27, 29-28
Both fighters looked excellent here, each playing the same game they’ve always played, but looking sharper and more skilled at it. The biggest failure for Leben was having absolutely no gameplan. He fought the exact same way he always has, Bisping has been saying for weeks how to beat that, and then came into the fight and did exactly what he said for three rounds. The fact that Leben couldn’t anticipate Bisping’s plan and work out a way around it, or try something new in the third after getting jabbed to death for two rounds really illustrates Leben’s ceiling as a fighter, although he was dangerous from bell to bell.
The biggest question for me is, “Why did Leben stop throwing those leg kicks?” Early in the fight, he was landing them well and often, because Bisping had to stand just outside of punching range to land his counters when Leben moved in, which opened up those kicks. Furthermore, accumulating damage to the legs would not only knock Bisping out of his strategy and hurt him, it would also slow him down and make it harder for him to get out of the way of Leben’s punches. Since Bisping was barely slipping some of those haymakers, a few inches taken off each step due to a beat up leg could have made a huge difference.
One final note is that both fighters showed impressive stamina. While Leben got his nose busted early in the fight and did slow down in the third, he still had energy and was moving and punching well. Bisping looked fabulous, staying crisp and in good form throughout, which is crucial since any momentary lapse in his defensive movement or guard could have turned the tide of the fight. Leben did get frustrated/tired and lose his form, punching wildly, but that’s not really so much of a stretch from the way he goes about business when fresh.
Moving forward, I expect Leben to continue to be a gatekeeper, as well as occasionally bashing someone that’s better than him but chinny. Unless he suddenly develops much classier striking or really flexing his decent groundgame, he’s going nowhere from where he stands today.
Bisping at this point is simply not ready to deal with the elite of the middleweight division. He can beat up the guys that aren’t strikers, but if standing up with Leben is touch-and-go, then a more talented brawler like Dan Henderson will send him home in a box. Bisping simply lacks the firepower to stand with the best strikers in the division, and while his submission defense seems strong, his wrestling is so-so and he’s not that strong, so monsters like Nate Marquardt and Yushin Okami will muscle him to the ground and control him if nothing else. Furthermore, it doesn’t matter how adequate Bisping’s sub defense is, should he end up on the floor with the likes of Rousimar Palhares or Demian Maia, he’ll be in constant and immediate danger of being submitted.
So, while Bisping is a talented fighter with a long career ahead of him, incremental improvements of the sort we’ve seen so far will not be enough to make him competitive with the top dogs. He’s going to need to make a quantum change, and move up to the next level in some way.
Keith Jardine defeats Brandon Vera by Decision (Split) 29-28, 29-28, 28-29
Jardine looked extremely confident coming into this fight, which was surprising for a man coming off such a brutal and emasculating knockout. Still, he just couldn’t get past Vera’s range early in the first, walking on to sharp counters and generally getting edged out, with sharp leg kicks. When Vera landed that uppercut and sent Jardine down, it looked like the inevitable was going to occur, with Jardine yet again getting hurt, trying to fight through it, and getting finished from accumulated punches. However, in his desperation Jardine managed to get a piece of Vera and send him to the canvas momentarily, dodging a bullet. Re-watching this punch in slow-motion, it seems like it’s more of a slip and less of a knockdown, as Vera recovers immediately and the punch only glances anyway, just enough to throw Vera off balance. However, there is no doubt that Vera nearly got finished, as Jardine took the opportunity to charge him like a lineman and drive him into the fence, where he landed a really brutal uppercut to a crouching Vera that, in my opinion, is what put him on queer street. If Jardine hadn’t gotten so excited after this and flailed away a couple inches ABOVE Vera’s head, he would have sent him limp and face-first into the matt, finishing him off then and there. However, a badly hurt Vera managed to work his way to his feet just prior to the bell, and move back to his corner to recover, once he figured out where his corner was. I give this round to Jardine, 10-9.
Early in the second, Vera landed that stomp/push kick to the side of Jardine’s knee, bending it slightly further than it should have bent. Jardine started limping a bit, and spent the rest of the round basically taking runs at Vera and being countered. Jardine isn’t as rangy as Vera, and robs himself of some additional reach by throwing hooks from his shoulders instead of straight punches with his whole body. Vera was pointfighting with no sense of urgency here, but his strikes were simply crisper, more accurate, and landed more cleanly. Vera blocked or slipped almost all of Jardine’s strikes in this round, and obviously was in the drivers seat the entire round. I give this round to Vera, 10-9.
The third round was similar to the first, although Jardine became more aggressive and somewhat more effective, landing his shots better, although still not being able to string much together. Jardine’s most effective offense in the round was a series of uppercuts from belly-to-back clinch, which he held for only a few seconds, and during which he didn’t seem to hurt Vera much, despite landing cleanly. Vera again showed no sense of urgency, while Jardine aggressively pursued and looked for the finish. However, Vera did land more high-quality strikes, scoring a couple times with clean crosses. Again, while Vera didn’t hustle enough for the decision to be obvious, he did block or avoid the bulk of Jardine’s strikes. For landing more frequent and more effective offense, I would give this round and the fight to Vera 10-9 (29-28). However, since it was so close, there’s no real reason to complain overmuch about the decision, other than to say I disagree with it.
Either of these guys has the skills to beat anyone in the division. I think if Vera can get his mental game in order and really show a strong desire to win fights, he can go a lot further than Jardine. I think Jardine will continue to be plagued by hiccups where he gets knocked out cold, as his aggression and willingness to trade often let his opponents tap his chin, and his response when that happens is to throw right back at them, opening up the possibility of further strikes putting him out of the game entirely, whereas turtling, buttflopping, and running might give him a chance to recover. Jardine doesn’t have a great chin, but he’s not Kendall Grove either. He simply tends to allow himself to take more punishment than he can really endure, a fatal flaw in a division as heavy-handed as 205.
Luis Arthur Cane defeats Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou by TKO (Punches) 2nd round 4:15
Sokoudjou was actually really amazingly impressive in this fight… for the first three minutes. The guy might be a stronger starter than Alistair Overeem, the king of sizzle without the steak. It’s simply amazing how fast and hard Soko can throw his body around, which makes it all the more impressive that Cane was able to absorb it and keep coming forward aggressively. While Sokoudjou’s work rate did drop massively, he didn’t simply fall apart, and a winded Soko is still a deadly one for most fighters. Still, he’s going to need to work on that if he wants to live up to his potential. The guy is only 24 though, and has very limited fighting experience, so if he can get his training and style figured out, there’s still a lot more to expect from him.
Luis Cane was not only very tough, but showed he is a very technically savvy, sneaking quick, snappy punches through Thierry’s guard and around his strikes. Cane’s punches were extremely quick and snappy, and he has very long arms, so his reach and speed are going to give most people in the division quite a bit of trouble. His knees were timed extremely well whenever Thierry closed the distance, and he even had a very nice inline elbow attempt. With his aggressiveness, indominitable will to win, and vicious finishing power, I think he’s good enough to take out even the likes of Keith Jardine in a pure standup fight. Given that he’s a BJJ black belt; Cane could also be a multi-dimensional threat.
Chris Lytle defeats Paul Taylor by Decision (Unanimous) 29-28 29-28 30-27
It's hard to believe Lytle was once seen as a boring and decision-happy fighter. Chris fought a very exciting, if dumb, fight here. He massively outclassed Taylor on the ground, but decided to make sure he'd always be employed (by creating a slugfest) rather than fight the smart fight. Both of these guys have incredible chins. Taylor looked fabulous here, throwing very short, fast strikes in nasty combinations. He didn't do much footwork, pretty much just standing in front of Lytle and teeing off, which is why Lytle hit him back so hard. Paul did maintain a good crisp form throughout, which Lytle did not, to say the least.
We all know where Lytle belongs in the division, but what to make of this very exciting young Brit? Well, sad to say, but he's in the wrong division to be a undersized, one-dimensional striker with a very poor ground game. Although Paul did show some ability to get back to his feet, he's going nowhere divisionally important in a weight class stacked top-full of hulking top-position grapplers. Hopefully we can see some more exciting fights from him in the future though, beating up TUF also-rans or other British brawlers or something similar.
Marcus Davis defeats Paul Kelly by Submission (Guillotine Choke 2nd Round 2:16
Marcus Davis is a pretty decent fighter. I don't think he has the talent to be a top guy in the division, but he's the kind of guy that will always be able to give UFC washouts that extra boot out the door, while maintaining his position as a curtain-jerker for the main card, or a strong preliminary fighter.
I suspect this was not all Paul Kelly had to offer. He looked scared or nervous before the fight was underway, and turned in a terribly passive and uninspiring performance. Davis showed some great footwork, staying just outside of Kelly's range, forcing him to reach and put himself out of position to try to get those extra few inches and make contact. This can also make fighters overextend themselves on takedowns, as was the case when Kelly drove his head so deep into that guillotine. Marcus is a pretty known commodity at this point, which could be useful for future wagering.
Shane Carwin defeats Neil Wain by TKO (Punches) 1st Round 1:31
Not a lot to be learned from this fight. Carwin is a gigantic, scary, powerful man-monster. We knew that. Wain sports a very impressive gut. I think we should see him fight Roy Nelson just for the visual spectacle, even if Roy would tear him apart for the title of king of the fatties. The one thing to take away is that Carwin can really move pretty well for a gigantic slab of muscle, and his takedown and ground control was pretty solid, even if it wasn't exactly fluid. Big things from this guy in the future.
Jim Miller defeats David Baron by Submission (Rear Naked Choke) 3rd Round 3:19
Jim Miller looked good whenever this fight wasn't on the feet. He has real ground skills for a wrestler, and his wrestling is pretty good. How far he goes in MMA will be determined by how much he can improve his standup or force a grappling match. As it stands, he's at a disadvantage against anyone with even a basically competent striking game, but he's got talent and is responding well to training as of right now. I wouldn't be surprised if he got bounced to fight night Prelims or feeder shows for a while, but then made it back to the UFC with an improved and matured game.
Baron basically showed he's one of those quirky Euro fighters that does a few things in ways that are unusual and different from the somewhat cookie-cutter American MMA style. However, that style is so prevalent because it's extremely effective, and Baron will probably end up losing to more fighters like Jim Miller as the Baron started by submitting a lazy Mach Sakurai crests and Baron resumes his rightful place as a euro journeyman.
I have been unable to see several of the preliminary fights, and will wrap these notes up when they are available.
October 18, 2008
UFC 89: Bisping vs. Leben
UFC 89: Bisping vs. Leben was held on October 18, 2008 at the National Indoor Arena in Birmingham, England. The event was headlined by a middleweight bout between Michael Bisping and Chris Leben. Lyoto Machida was scheduled to face fellow undefeated light heavyweight Thiago Silva, but a back injury has forced Silva to withdraw from the fight. Lyoto will not be fighting on this card. It will air live in Great Britain and Ireland on Setanta Sports and via tape delay in the United States and Canada on Spike TV. It also aired live via Rogers Sportsnet in Canada.
Post UFC 89 Notes Play-by-Play
UFC 89 Picks and Predictions UFC 89 Breakdown: The Main Card, The Undercard.
| Match | Winner | Loser | Method | Round | Time |
| 1 | Per Eklund | Samy Schiavo | Submission (Rear Naked Choke) | 3 | 1:47 |
| 2 | Jim Miller | David Baron | Submission (Rear Naked Choke) | 3 | 3:19 |
| 3 | Terry Etim | Sam Stout | Decision (Unanimous) | 3 | 5:00 |
| 4 | David Bielkheden | Jess Liaudin | Decision (Unanimous) | 3 | 5:00 |
| 5 | Shane Carwin | Neil Wain | TKO (Punches) | 1 | 1:31 |
| 6 | Dan Hardy | Akihiro Gono | Decision (Split) | 3 | 5:00 |
| 7 | Marcus Davis | Paul Kelly | Submission (Guillotine Choke) | 2 | 2:16 |
| 8 | Chris Lytle | Paul Taylor | Decision (Unanimous) | 3 | 5:00 |
| 9 | Luis Arthur Cane | Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou | TKO (Punches) | 2 | 4:15 |
| 10 | Keith Jardine | Brandon Vera | Decision (Split) | 3 | 5:00 |
| 11 | Michael Bisping | Chris Leben | Decision (Unanimous) | 3 | 5:00 |
UFC 89: Bisping vs. Leben - 11. Michael Bisping vs. Chris Leben
Middleweight bout: Michael Bisping defeated Chris Leben via Unanimous Decision (30-27, 30-27, 29-28).
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UFC 89: Bisping vs. Leben - 10. Keith Jardine vs. Brandon Vera
Light Heavyweight bout: Keith Jardine defeated Brandon Vera via Split Decison (29-28, 29-28, 28-29).
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UFC 89: Bisping vs. Leben - 9. Luis Cane vs. Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou
Light Heavyweight bout: Luis Cane defeated Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou via TKO (Strikes) 4.15 of round 2.
Luis Cane was awarded an extra $40,000 for Knockout of the Night.
UFC 89: Bisping vs. Leben - 8. Chris Lytle vs. Paul Taylor
Welterweight bout: Chris Lytle defeated Paul Taylor via Unanimous Decision (30-27, 29-28, 29-28).
Chris Lytle and Paul Taylor were each awarded an extra $40,000 for Fight of the Night.
UFC 89: Bisping vs. Leben - 7. Marcus Davis vs. Paul Kelly
Welterweight bout: Marcus Davis defeated Paul Kelly via Submission (Guillotine choke) 2:16 of round 2.
Read More......UFC 89: Bisping vs. Leben - 6. Dan Hardy vs. Akihiro Gono
Welterweight bout: Dan Hardy defeated Akihiro Gono via Split Decision (29-28, 29-28, 28-29).
Read More......UFC 89: Bisping vs. Leben - 5. Shane Carwin vs. Neil Wain
Heavyweight bout: Shane Carwin defeated Neil Wain via TKO (Strikes) 1.31 of round 1.
Read More......UFC 89: Bisping vs. Leben - 4. David Bielkheden vs. Jess Liaudin
Lightweight bout: David Bielkheden defeated Jess Liaudin via Unanimous Decision (30-27, 29-28, 29-28).
Read More......UFC 89: Bisping vs. Leben - 3. Terry Etim vs. Sam Stout
Lightweight bout: Terry Etim defeated Sam Stout via Unanimous Decision (30-27, 29-28, 29-28).
Read More......UFC 89: Bisping vs. Leben - 2. Jim Miller vs. David Baron
Lightweight bout: Jim Miller defeated David Baron via Submission (Rear Naked Choke) at 3:19 of round 3.
Jim Miller was awarded an extra $40,000 for Submission of the Night.
UFC 89: Bisping vs. Leben - 1. Per Eklund vs. Samy Schiavo
Lightweight bout: Per Eklund defeated Samy Schiavo via Submission (Rear Naked Choke) at 1:47 of round 3.
Read More......UFC 89: Bisping vs. Leben (Predictions)
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UFC 89: Bisping vs. Leben is to be held on October 18, 2008 at the National Indoor Arena in Birmingham, England. The event will be headlined by a middleweight bout between Michael Bisping and Chris Leben. Lyoto Machida was scheduled to face fellow undefeated light heavyweight Thiago Silva, but a back injury has forced Silva to withdraw from the fight. Lyoto will not be fighting on this card. It will air live in Great Britain and Ireland on Setanta Sports and via tape delay in the United States and Canada on Spike TV.
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UFC 89 Breakdown: The Main Card, The Undercard.
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Main card:
Chris Leben (186) vs. Michael Bisping (185)
Brandon Vera (203) vs. Keith Jardine (205)
Luis Arthur Cane (206) vs. Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou (205)
Chris Lytle (170) vs. Paul Taylor (170)
Marcus Davis (169) vs. Paul Kelly (169)
Preliminary card:
Akihiro Gono (171) vs. Dan Hardy (169)
Neil Wain (254) vs. Shane Carwin (264)
David Bielkheden (156) vs. Jess Liaudin (155)
Sam Stout (155) vs. Terry Etim (155)
Jim Miller (155) vs. David Baron (155)
Per Eklund (156) vs. Samy Schiavo (156)
October 17, 2008
UFC 89 Picks and Predictions
By Nicholas Bailey (nbailey@mmaratings.net)
UFC 89 as it exists today is a much weaker card than the one originally scheduled. The back injury that forced Thiago Silva to cancel his fight with Lyoto Machida also robbed the card of much of its luster and star power. Instead we have a large number of UK and Europe-based fighters that wouldn't have made it to the UFC if not for the need for local draws. While I'm not one to begrudge more fights, successful marketing, or up-and-coming fighters, the quality of this card and its free broadcast mean it's more of a fight night card than a 'number' event.
Interestingly, almost every matchup on the card looks poised to deliver a slugfest, so this may be an enjoyable 'popcorn' UFC. The fights to keep your eye on are not the main event, but the light-heavyweight matches, since the winners of Vera/Jardine and Cane/Sokoudjou will likely be in title eliminators in short order.
Michael Bisping (-220) vs. Chris Leben (+190)
If I were Joe Rogan I'd just compare head sizes and say all you need to know is that Leben's skull is 10% larger. However, my brain has not been fried by DMT. These guys may have both come off of TUF, but they're well-established UFC veterans at this point, and we know what we're getting from them. Bisping is an aggressive, technically talented striker, with no glaring weaknesses. Leben is an extremely aggressive slugger with a phenomenal chin, which he insists on testing in every fight. Bisping is very technically sound, defends himself well, and relies more on accumulating combinations of strikes in the style of a point-fighting kickboxer rather than headhunting for a one-shot KO. Both fighters are competent on the ground, and capable of threatening with submissions, but are stronger defensively there, so I doubt either could get much done in terms of advancing position and threatening with subs.
Leben still punches the exact same way he did on TUF. He leads with his nipple and drags his whole body to whip his hand around. It makes his punches hard, but it lets crisper boxers tag him easily. However much Leben may load up and throw haymakers, he's throwing them accurately now, not just winging them and hoping to hit. He may be wide open to counters, but he swings through them, so his opponent must be wary of getting into tit-for-tat exchanges.
Leben also managed to gas out badly and look like death against Terry Martin (and was well on his was to losing a decision before he got rocked very badly and then scored a knockout), and fought so stupidly that he lost to Kalib Starnes in a fight that actually saw Kalib cower away from him in a premonition of the debacle he put together with Nate Quarry. Leben had no energy in that fight and continually put himself in positions that negated his advantages over Starnes.
Leben has really had his success against fighters that can't take a lot of punishment, so as soon as Leben can get a good shot in, it's all downhill.
Bisping has shown no sign of any chin problems. In addition to a successful run in pure kickboxing, he was battered and ragdolled by Matt Hamill without ever seeming out of it or wobbly, and managed to come back and win the fight. Bisping had a ton of problems in that fight, mostly due to the extreme difference in physical power--Hamill is an enormously strong man, and a very straight puncher. His success against Bisping came from just overwhelming him. Bisping keyed off this fight and performed impressively in his loss to Rashad Evans, a smaller man than Hamill, but another very physically gifted wrestler. Bisping demonstrated excellent takedown defense in that fight, to the point that I think he could outwrestle Leben if he felt it necessary. I won't be surprised if Bisping throws in a couple of takedowns just to throw off Leben's rhythm and accumulate some ground and pound points.
Bisping also has a significant advantage in terms of gas. Leben looked like death late in the fight against both Starnes and Martin, and while Bisping visibly tired after three rounds of grappling with much larger men, he remained active and energetic, and (most importantly) didn't allow his form to fall apart and his defenses to collapse.
Against fighters where he can move in and out, mix up his strikes, and generally technically outclass, Bisping looks fabulous. While he has to be concerned about Leben's power, and keep his footwork and head movement going so Leben can't just chop away at his skull, I think Michael has the talent needed to win this fight with some certainty. When you have someone that is a very crisp and accurate puncher that throws straight down the middle against someone that leads with their chest out, chin up, and hands wide, it would be silly not to expect Bisping to win this fight. Leben is tough enough and has the power that it's always possible he'll initiate an exchange and somehow land something that puts Bisping down and out, but Bisping's chin is solid. Michael Bisping by decision.
At -220 I'm mildly inclined to play on Bisping, but I think it's just about a fair, and therefore uninteresting, line. However, I expect late money to come in on Leben as a 2:1 underdog, which would open up Bisping's line to a more enticing play for a unit.
Keith Jardine (+155) vs. Brandon Vera (-180)
Jardine is coming off an absolute emasculation at the hands of Wanderlei Silva, and Vera has to redeem himself after a gutless performance in a close decision win over a hand-picked opponent following a few disappointing losses.
Both of these fighters are competent and well-rounded, and if this fight stays on the outside, we could see a great display, as that's where both men are strongest--exchanging blows at the maximum range. Vera, however, has an often-annoying tendency to swim into a clinch and try to dirty box, totally negating his excellent pure kickboxing skills, and he does this even when it's a terrible strategic idea. Fortunately for Vera, the weakest link in Jardine's game seems to be a tendency to get clipped and go down if he's being swarmed. Vera, for all his flaws, is an excellent finisher, so all it will take for him is one clean knee or inline elbow. That's a big advantage in this fight, because I think Vera's chin is good enough, and his defense strong enough, to keep Jardine from having much chance of finishing him in this match.
It is possible that Vera comes in uninspired or doesn't work hard for the win. Jardine is a junkyard dog, and he's going to try to find a way to win from bell to bell. He could grind and outpoint Vera for a decision if Brandon decides to have another personal therapy session in the cage like he did against Reese Andy.
However, I think Vera has all the tools to frustrate the very awkward Jardine, and he definitely has the power and killer instinct to exploit any openings for a sudden finish. It's even conceivable that he could catch another guillotine if Jardine isn't expecting it. Brandon Vera by KO round 2.
On paper, -180 is a good price for Vera, but his recent performances give me enough worries about his mental state that I'll stay away from this one.
Luiz Cane (-105) vs. Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou (-120)
Cane is a very vicious traditional Muay Thai fighter with excellent accuracy and timing in his strikes. Sokoudjou makes up what he lacks in technique with sheer cartoonish power; the uppercut he landed on Arona looks like something from a bugs bunny cartoon. However, I think the Lyoto Machida fight showed us everything we need to know for this one. Sokoudjou isn't great in top position, and doesn't offer much at all off his back. More importantly, a skilled kickboxer can stay away from his power while still countering. It's also important to remember that Sokoudjou only has 7 fights, and in the only two I've seen where he got hit hard, he went down. Cane has vicious speed in his strikes, and I think he'll plonk Sokoudjou just like Glover Texeira did. Cane by KO round 1.
The line opening up this close was a huge disappointment to me, gambling-wise, as I really expected Cane to open as a moderate underdog and be a really juicy multi-unit bet. At -105, however, I would only recommend a normal play.
Chris Lytle (-350) vs. Paul Taylor (+300)
This is why I don't like UK cards. Paul Taylor is only in this matchup because he's a local guy. He's a talented fighter, but he's severely overmatched in every aspect of the game here, and there's no point in feeding Chris Lytle easy opponents to build him up. We know what we're going to get from Chris, and nursing him along to a title shot is just not in the picture.
Lytle has a very good chin, and has recently been very aggressive on the feet. He's surprisingly well-rounded, and can easily dispatch the one-dimensional Taylor on the floor if he so chooses. Lytle can most likely also knock him out if he comes to that. Chris Lytle by submission round 3.
I think there's a little value in Lytle at -350, although not a lot since there's always the possibility of a cut.
Marcus Davis (-295) vs. Paul Kelly (+250)
David hits incredibly hard for the weight class, but the gameplan for beating him has already been written; a clinch, a takedown, and top control all frustrate Marcus, who has at times sounded off about his philosophy that the only way to prove ones cojones is to stand and trade. Now, that sort of attitude is fine for 1998 or keyboard warriors, but for a professional fighter on the sports biggest stage, it usually leads to a refusal to train to fight off your back or otherwise become a well-rounded fighter. Davis has a shockingly large number of submission wins for someone that tries to bang out all his opponents, but his ground game is still lacking quite a bit of offensive punch, as we saw in his fight with Mike Swick.
Nevertheless, Paul Kelly simply doesn't have the chops to control Davis for 3 rounds, and will probably fade early when he has trouble getting past Davis' hands and finishing a takedown. Davis is not one to cruise for a decision, so expect him to pursue the knockout if he can avoid spending too much time underneath Kelly. Marcus Davis by Knockout round 2.
Again, long odds that still have a little value for the favorite, although not a lot.
Shane Carwin (-700) vs. Neil Wain (+500)
This should be a fun fight if someone can get a knockout before they gas embarrassingly. Two undefeated heavyweight sluggers are going to put on a show. Carwin has much more going for him than Wain, who will have to rely on that proverbial "puncher's chance". Shane Carwin by KO round 1.
Carwin is a far higher-quality fighter, but I think that any heavyweight has a chance in a slugfest, since the power of a 250lb man far outstrips the human body's ability to take punishment. If you're a degenerate gambler, it could be fun to take a chance that Neal Wain can channel the spirit of Eric Pele vs. Antonio Silva, given the longshot odds.
Akihiro Gono (-330) vs. Dan Hardy (+285)
Gono is pretty much the living embodiment of crafty veteran status. It's easy to forget because he's not a broken-down old man, but Gono is an MMA pioneer, having fought almost as long as Ken Shamrock and his contemporaries. Gono has a unique elusive and effective counter-striking style, with an emphasis on protecting his chin from excessive damage (I can only wonder what it looks like when he spars with training partner Misaki, who has a similarly unorthodox and passive style) letting him go deep even when badly out-gunned on the feet. While he isn't a technical wizard like a Jacare or Shinya Aoki, Gono's submission game is all craftiness and guile. He is able to utilize his experience to create openings that wouldn't be there for a by-the-book grappler, snatching submission wins over skilled grapplers like Tamdan McCrory and Gegard Mousasi.
While Hardy will be the sharper man in direct exchanges of strikes, I think Gono will be able to move around the ring and take enough potshots to frustrate Hardy, opening up opportunities for takedowns. On the mat, Gono's class will show through and he will keep Hardy on the defensive until he is able to lock in a submission, although the fight is just about as likely to go the distance. Akihiro Gono by submission round 2.
Terry Etim (+260) vs. Sam Stout (-265)
There was a time when Stout could accurately be predicted to tap out whenever his opponent took him down. Although he still struggles on the ground, those days are far past him, so Etim's impressive string of submissions may mean less than some think. Etim is still the more versatile fighter, threatening on the feet and able to punish with submissions those who attempt to control him on the ground. Stout is the more dangerous fighter standing, but Etim shouldn't be counted out. Etim's wrestling is horrible, however, so unless he can knock Stout down or pull guard, this fight will be decided on the feet, where Etim should be at a disadvantage. Sam Stout by Decision.
If the odds on Etim were longer, I think he would represent a great live dog. As it is, I'd only recommend a bet on him if you're a true Sam Stout hater (and there are plenty of those).
My Plays:
Parlay: Lytle and Vera .5u to win .47u
Parlay: Cane and Davis .5u to win .78u
Parlay: Davis, Gono, and Cane .5u to win 1.16u
Parlay: Davis, Gono, Bisping, and Vera .5u to win 1.38u
Parlay: Davis, Gono, Bisping, Vera, and Cane, .17u to win 1.06u
Parlay: Wain, Cane, Lytle, Davis, Gono, Bisping, and Vera .08u to win 4.5u
Look for my forthcoming article on the role of parlay betting in MMA
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October 16, 2008
The Throwaway Quote That Lost TUF
By Garth Hansen (garthhansen@mmaratings.net)
While watching the most recent episode of The Ultimate Fighter tonight they showed the full video, which was teased last week, of Junie Browning jumping the cage and doing whatever dim action had invaded his idiot hillbilly head. After the hullabaloo had died down, as his boy Junie exited behind him, Dana White mentioned how lucky Junie was that the Nevada State Athletic Commissioner Keith Kizer wasn't in attendance, as his license would have been "pulled". That comment pulled away any lingering respect I've held for Dana White.
You see, Keith Kizer didn't need to be there. There was a moral authority already in place, one who'd beaten the ideal of the UFC into the fighters who'd spent a night in the TUF house through re-ran speeches, live interviews, and a harsh, sometimes idiotic (and always calculating, we now see) adherence to a code. Ask Jesse Taylor, Alan Berube, Marlon Sims, and Noahs Inhofer & Thomas.
And yet, in as clear-cut a situation as we've seen in the brief history of The Ultimate Fighter, Dana White showed up with a scratchy voice, a forgiving nature, and allowed Junie Browning and Shane Nelson to stay in the house. For no reason other than he felt like it. Despite his ejection of at least one fighter for refereeing a fight, Dana White, President of the UFC, was A-OK with Junie getting hammered and all his other idiocy, and Nelson for his own moronic actions. Thus we have the selectively edited montage of Junie saying "I'll never do that again" and doing it again within seconds. While that's not exactly how things went down...who cares? "Never" doesn't mean five days later, it means "NEVER". And Junie "The Raging Inbred" Browning...did it again immediately. And repeated that performance the next show. I'll put placeholders in for the curses most people of sound mind and body want to holler: What. The. ****?
Part of the stupidity that people loved about The Ultimate Fighter, and what people have always loved about any fictional universe, is the Code. The Code lets you suspend your disbelief, knowing you'd be able to suss out the moments when an actor in a situation was straying from acceptable behavior. What White did in allowing Junie to stay violated, in a big old Random Task sort of way, the Code he himself had forcefully and notably put in place. The unspoken part of the TUF world was, "Don't Make Dana Look Like A Chump". And the UFC/Spike's own editing did just that, to the extent that they put a banana peel in front of him during tonight's show and let him do a hilarious stumble on it. "We're lucky Keith Kizer isn't here! Hur hur hur! We can keep getting away with our high-jinks! Hur hur hur!" Dana, you just got chumped, in a big way.
Let's forget the factual stupidity of this Browning character Spike and the UFC have allowed to take center stage on their mainstream golden goose. The man actually yelled "You just laid on him" at a guy who'd spent most of two rounds dynamically fighting his opponent standing and on the ground. That's like me yelling "You just sang this site!" after you read it. You didn't sing...why would I yell that? Either I'm insane or an idiot, right? Thankfully, Junie Browning takes both medals. Factual stupidity aside, Browning is now the albatross Dana White and the UFC must wear around their necks. Whatever glory the moron achieves, he'll still be that simpleton who pulled Bader down into the pool at the TUF house.
Chris Leben, Josh Koscheck...they did some stupid stuff. But they had no idea what they were getting into. Junie Browning did. That makes his stupidity...that much greater, that much more amazing, in a way. He knew, as he showed, even in his drunken stupor, what he was throwing away. Dana White tossed aside his integrity to save him. And he did it again. There's a genius in Browning's stupidity, and a tragedy in Dana White's acceptance of it. Dana sat there in the gym, his mantle as dispenser of justice waiting to be taken up, and wondered about the presence of a bureaucrat. Because of this, Junie will forever be the squawking parrot on Dana's shoulder..."I'm in it for the money!" "I'm in it for the money!" "I'm in it for the money!"
October 6, 2008
"Heat" Mirrors Real World
By Garth Hansen (garthhansen@mmaratings.net)
The turmoil and uncertainty sparked by the CBS/EliteXC "Heat" event from Saturday night has the mixed martial arts world as scattered, sliding and uncertain as the rest of the country.
Allegations are flying all over of fraud, rigged outcomes, and general shadiness. Accusations are being made, the law is starting to take notice, and more than anything chaos is engendered. All of this because a girl came in with an extra pound, a kid with pink hair knocked out an extremely inexperienced mixed martial artist, and promoters may (or may not) have offered unethical bonuses (or bribes). Add to all of that at least 4.3 million viewers. The chaos of world financial markets seemed to be mirrored in this relatively small fishbowl, and as of now it's still uncertain where it may lead. One thing's for sure: it'll all be very different when things are settled down.First at the weigh-ins, Gina Carano doesn't make weight on her first, or second try. On her third very naked attempt, she makes it, with seemingly little time between the two tries. Some blogs, forums, and commentators cry foul, others, including people in attendance, say there are factors like a moving platform to account for discrepancies. Gina's may be the least noticed of the major issues from the show, but it seems to be the most likely to have some real weirdness behind it. The laws of physics are hard to monkey with, but scales really aren't.
Next we have Seth Petruzelli coming off the undercard (and leaving a presumably very upset Aaron Rosa opponentless) and TKOing Kimbo Slice in a measley 14 seconds with a distinctly non-showy short right hand and some followup wild hammerfists on the ground. My first thought on the change was "Uh oh, Kimbo's screwed", along with about 500 others who bothered to actually record their opinions beforehand (only my drunk friend heard me say it, and he's a very unreliable source, the souse). MMA haters are gleefully mocking the outcome, acting as if Kimbo Slice is the pinnacle of all MMA skill brought low by a journeyman karate practitioner. Traditional media is confused, as evinced by Gus Johnson's insane freakout (I like Gus, but the whole Rocky thing was stupid). MMA hardcores are split: either they believe Kimbo was a huge embarrassment already, or they felt bad for the rookie being thrown into main events. Through the whole thing Seth and Kimbo showed great class that night in admitting the difficulty of getting a new opponent at the last minute and asking the fans to stay positive. Shawn Tompkins really said it best: "Hopefully Kimbo can get back in and fight the guys he should be fighting, and climb up the ladder." I don't think Kimbo's career is done because he lost.
Finally Seth Petruzelli says in a radio interview that he may or may not have been paid to keep the fight standing. This is a fix. He later retracted or restated his comments, but no one seems to be saying his words at the time were different. So the blogosphere is up in arms, Seth goes from the savior of MMA who took out the charade to a goat who took fix money. Chaos reigns.
Right now the world is in some incredible chaos, wars, financial and social upheaval are all over. It seems like the somewhat insulated little world of MMA has caught the same bug. Affliction has rumors of issues all over the place, MMA in Japan is nothing but huge Fedor-less question marks, or whatever the Kanji is, and ProElite, the only other sizable competition for the UFC, is in the midst of some possibly shattering tremors. Things are changing. But from chaos comes new orders, and as the rest of the world goes, so will MMA. I look forward to how things will shake out, but can't hazard a guess for you.
October 5, 2008
KimBOMB
By Nicholas Bailey (nbailey@mmaratings.net)
P.T. Barnum would be proud. Between Naked-weigh ins, the intended dog and pony show, or the clown shot out of a cannon that ended up happening, EliteXC on CBS II was the biggest circus in North American MMA in quite some time.
The sad thing is that, aside from a main event that was never going to live up to the hype in the first place, and ended up rebooting the career of a middling talent, EliteXC was an enormously entertaining event, which could go far to broaden MMA's appeal. Kimbo's loss to a nearly complete unknown is going to hurt EliteXC massively, but some people will get the message that MMA is more than just Kimbo, and new fans will be born.
I was eagerly awaiting a Kimbo mugging of Ken Shamrock, which, even given how tonight's fight did unfold, I still think was inevitable. I saw Seth Petruzelli's name alongside Kimbo's on the EliteXC after flipping back from yet another embarassing performance from the Cubs. Immediately several thoughts went through my head at once. First of all, poor EliteXC having to deal with someone as flakey as Shamrock, and perhaps losing out on their main event draw, and taking a big risk putting a live fighter in with their fragile superstar. Secondly, I died a little inside knowing that my wagers on Kimbo were all canceled (and I worried for several parlays as well, which were thankfully no-actioned only on the Kimbo fight). Then something dawned on me. Seth was a genuinely talented fighter, well-rounded, and was probably going to win the fight. Now, as it turns out, if I'd lived up to my self-promoted reputation as a gambling degenerate and rushed to the sportsbooks, the few that did open up lines on Seth had him at up to +475.
Unfortunately for me, I was being a normal person, drinking and hanging out with my friends, and (here's some insider advice for you) I generally try to stay away from making gambling decisions after I've had a few. In any case, Kimbo tried to brawl with his hands at his waist, charged sideways onto a punnch that rotated his head 180 degrees, and had his ears boxed. EliteXC is going to be out quite a bit of money, although the excitement of the other fights combined with the news of Kimbo getting handled by a nobody could help them in a lot of respects. The biggest loser is Kimbo, who's really too old to spend a long time rebuilding himself, so he'll most likely be pushed into more fights against tough opponents, which will lead to as many losses as victories--a sad fate for a man who is, by all reports, a very good-natured and honest person underneath his bad-boy image.
The biggest winner is obviously Seth Petruzelli, leaping parkour-style back out of the obscurity of journeyman status and untelevised preliminary fights. I don't think Seth will ever crack the top ten of any weight division, but tonight has provided him an immense measure of job security. No matter how many more fights he loses or how little he trains, he can always headlines regional shows as "the man that knocked out Kimbo". It really is remarkable to think of the number of non-UFC fighters simply green with envy now. Do you remember how many fighters called out Kimbo and tried to start a feud, simply so they could have a chance to be the first to beat him? Kudos to Seth.
Of course, Kimbo casts a long shadow, and that kept many much higher-quality fights from getting the attention they deserved. One such was Jake Shields' impressive tussle with Paul Daley. Shields has always had a ludicrously good control game from on top of his opponents coupled with good wrestling. Now he seems to be less conservative on top, and it's made him a much better fighter. By seeking submissions and punches to finish, Shields makes his opponents defend themselves rather than try to work out of position, although Shields armbar from mount moves at a glacial pace, presumably out of fear of giving up position. Shields looked as expected in this fight, moving well and timing his shots well, and performing expertly on the ground. Semtex looked very sharp on the feet, and Shields seemed genuinely afraid of exchanging with him, which may have added an extra edge to his takedowns. I'd love to see Shields fight someone close to his own level of ability, but that will most likely require moving to another organization.
Speaking of other organizations, the Andrei Arlovski vs. Roy Nelson fight was hugely entertaining. First of all, it's always hilarious to see a fat guy come in and scrap the way Nelson does. Secondly, the actual quality of the fight was very high. In my opinion it's a win for both fighters, and both performed as expected. Arlovski looked very sharp, flashing the same controlled viciousness he used to tear Ben Rothwell down. Roy Nelson did the best he could, and showed he was the real deal by being game every moment of the fight, backing up the much sexier Arlovski at times, and beautifully reversing Andre's early takedown attempt for some ground work. Nelson is tough and talented, but he simply didn't have what it took to keep Arlovski from landing nasty combos, and nobody is tough enough to let Arlovski use them as a heavy bag. Speaking of bad things nobody should endure, this fight tied the women's fights for most unacceptable moment of the night when the referee stood the fighters up from sidemount after a very brief period of inactivity. That's simply not okay. I'm going to say that again--it is NOT OKAY to stand fighters up from such dominant positions unless the top fighter is virtually asleep.
If Andrei keeps fighting like this, the losses to Tim Sylvia will be nothing more than a footnote in a great career. Nelson, too, has a bright future ahead of him. Ideally he can truly dedicate himself to competition, slim down (perhaps as far as light heavyweight) and really make a go of seeing how far he can go in the sport.
Kelly Kobold showed great gameness/toughness/heart in getting absolutely hammered by Gina Carano. Unfortunately for fans of the sport of MMA, this fight was limited to a little-league 3 minutes a round, which is basically preposterous and ties the standup from sidemount as worst of the event. Of course, neither Gina nor Kelly made much of an argument for longer rounds, fighting at a sprinting pace and gassing in the third round. Kelly came close to winning some rounds and seemed to match Gina's strength, but she simply had nothing for Gina on the feet. While they did exchange, Gina showed that it was truly better to give than receive, working straight punches and either took the bulk of Kelly's punches on her shoulders or got away from them entirely. Gina looked good against an opponent she couldn't bully who had the toughness and power to hit back hard. I still haven't really seen Gina's chin tested, and if Kelly could land the shots she did, I think Cyborg can land even more, and will most likely knock Gina out should they fight. Kelly should call me and I will take her out for a fine seafood dinner.
Ninja Rua continued his tradition of getting bombed with a quickness by big punchers. A disappointing fight for me, especially since Radach still looked sloppy and got caught a number of times (most notable a double near-KO that produced some hilarious groundwork), indicating he isn't really a vastly improved fighter. Ninja, even while dazed and fighting on pure instinct, showed his fabulous ground game. I really think that fighting in the "chute boxe" style is hurting Ninja and he needs to come out and fight more like a Jiu-Jitsu fighter, and do less of the "stand in place and throw weak punches" business that is really hurting him. He fights on the feet as if he were Wanderlei, but Wanderlei hits like a gorilla, so he can afford to not concern himself with counterpunches. Ninja can't. If Radach keeps fighting like this, he'll do well in EliteXC but he'll continue to hit speed bumps when someone can take or avoid his punches and hit him back while he leaves himself open. It's how he's lost in the past, and one shouldn't be surprised to see him lose that way in the future.
October 4, 2008
EliteXC - Heat
EliteXC: Heat was held on October 4, 2008 in Sunrise, Florida at the Bank Atlantic Center. This was the third EliteXC show to be featured on CBS and marked the return of popular fighters Jake Shields, Gina Carano, and Kimbo Slice. In addition, the show included a co-promoted heavyweight bout with Affliction featuring former UFC heavyweight champion Andrei Arlovski facing the last and only reigning IFL heavyweight champion Roy Nelson. EliteXC's viability is questionable after Slice's defeat at this event.
Kimbo Slice was originally scheduled to face Ken Shamrock who was medically disqualified Saturday by the Florida State Athletic Commission after sustaining a cut from a headbutt during a light workout some time within the last 24 hours. Seth Petruzelli, who was scheduled to fight Aaron Rosa on the undercard, replaced Shamrock.
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Elite XC on CBS II
| Match | Winner | Loser | Method | Round | Time |
| 1 | Nicolae Cury | Jorge Bouchat | Submission (Reverse-Triangle Choke) | 1 | 1:35 |
| 2 | Bryan Hamade | David Gomez | Submission (Guillotine choke) | 1 | 2:03 |
| 3 | Mikey Gomez | Lorenzo Borgomeo | Submission (Armbar) | 2 | 4:06 |
| 4 | Conor Heun | James Edson Berto | TKO (Punches and Elbows) | 2 | 2:18 |
| 5 | Cristiane Santos | Yoko Takahashi | Decision (Unanimous) | 3 | 3:00 |
| 6 | Benji Radach | Murilo Rua | TKO (Punches) | 2 | 2:31 |
| 7 | Gina Carano | Kelly Kobold | Decision (Unanimous) | 3 | 3:00 |
| 8 | Andrei Arlovski | Roy Nelson | TKO (Punch) | 2 | 3:14 |
| 9 | Jake Shields | Paul Daley | Submission (Armbar) | 2 | 3:47 |
| 10 | Seth Petruzelli | Kevin Ferguson | TKO (Punches) | 1 | 0:14 |
EliteXC - Heat - 10. Seth Petruzelli vs. Kevin Ferguson
Heavyweight Bout: Seth Petruzelli defeated Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson via TKO (strikes) at 0:14 of round one.
Kimbo Slice was originally scheduled to face Ken Shamrock who was medically disqualified Saturday by the Florida State Athletic Commission after sustaining a cut from a headbutt during a light workout some time within the last 24 hours.
Seth Petruzelli, who was scheduled to fight Aaron Rosa on the undercard, replaced Shamrock.
EliteXC - Heat - 9. Jake Shields vs. Paul Daley
Welterweight Title Bout: Jake Shields defeated Paul Daley via submission (armbar) at 3:47 of round two to retain the EliteXC Welterweight title.
EliteXC - Heat - 8. Andrei Arlovski vs. Roy Nelson
Heavyweight Bout: Andrei Arlovski defeated Roy Nelson via TKO (punch) at 3:14 of round two.
This bout was a co-promotion with Affliction.
EliteXC - Heat - 7. Gina Carano vs. Kelly Kobald
Women's Bout: Gina Carano defeated Kelly Kobald via unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 29-27).
EliteXC - Heat - 6. Benji Radach vs. Murilo Rua
Middleweight Bout: Benji Radach defeated Murilo "Ninja" Rua via KO (punch) at 2:31 of round two.
Read More......EliteXC - Heat - 5. Cristiane Santos vs. Yoko Takahashi
Women's Bout: Cristiane "Cyborg" Santos defeated Yoko Takahashi via Unanimous Decision (30-26, 30-27, 30-27).
Read More......EliteXC - Heat - 4. Conor Heun vs. James Edson Berto
Lightweight Bout: Conor Heun defeated James Edson Berto via TKO (Strikes) at 2:18 of round 2.
Read More......EliteXC - Heat - 3. Mickey Gomez vs. Lorenzo Borgomeo
Welterweight Bout: Mickey Gomez defeated Lorenzo Borgomeo via submission due to an armbar at 4:06 of round two.
Read More......EliteXC - Heat - 2. Bryan Hamade vs. David Gomez
Bantamweight Bout: Bryan Hamade defeated David Gomez via submission due to a guillotine choke at 2:03 of round one.
Read More......EliteXC - Heat - 1. Nicolae Cury vs. Jorge Boechat
Lightweight Bout: Nicolae Cury defeated Jorge Bouchat via submission due to a triangle choke at 1:35 of round one.
Read More......EliteXC - Heat (Predictions)
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EliteXC: Heat is to be held on October 4, 2008 in Sunrise, Florida at the Bank Atlantic Center.
This is the third EliteXC show to be featured on CBS and marks the return of popular fighters Jake Shields, Gina Carano, Ken Shamrock and Kimbo Slice. In addition, the show will include a co-promoted heavyweight bout with Affliction featuring former UFC heavyweight champion Andrei Arlovski facing the last and only reigning IFL heavyweight champion Roy Nelson.
Elite XC on CBS II EliteXC 'Heat' Breakdown

EliteXC “Heat” Live Weigh-in Results:
Kimbo Slice (234.5) vs. Ken Shamrock (206.5)
Jake Shields (169.75) vs. Paul Daley (170)
Andrei Arlovski (240.75) vs. Roy Nelson (262.75)
Gina Carano (141) vs. Kelly Kobald (141)
Murilo "Ninja" Rua (185) vs. Benji Radach (185)
Cristiane "Cyborg" Santos (148.5) vs. Yoko Takahashi (148.5)
James Edson Berto (157.75) vs. Conor Heun (160.75)
Aaron Rosa (204.75) vs. Seth Petruzelli (205.5)
Mickey Gomez (170.25) vs. Lorenzo Borgomeo (170.25)
David Gomez (138.75) vs. Hamadi (138.75)
Jorge Boechat (159.5) vs. Nicolae Cury (161.25)
October 3, 2008
Strikeforce - Payback
Strikeforce: Payback took place at the Broomfield Events Center in Broomfield, Colorado. It marked the first time Strikeforce has held an event in Colorado. The main event featured a rematch between Duane Ludwig and Sammy Morgan.
Quick Hits for Strikeforce: Payback
| Match | Winner | Loser | Method | Round | Time |
| 1 | Tyler Toner | Ricky Johnson | TKO (Punches) | 2 | 3:44 |
| 2 | Michelle Watterson | Tyra Parker | Technical Submission (Rear Naked Choke) | 1 | 1:20 |
| 3 | Carlos Zevallos | Andre Walker | TKO (Punches) | 1 | 4:48 |
| 4 | Billy Evangelista | Luke Caudillo | Decision (Unanimous) | 3 | 5:00 |
| 5 | Donnie Liles | Pete Spratt | Submission (Rear Naked Choke) | 3 | 1:59 |
| 6 | Frank Trigg | Falaniko Vitale | Decision (Unanimous) | 3 | 5:00 |
| 7 | Duane Ludwig | Sammy Morgan | Submission (Strikes) | 1 | 2:01 |
Strikeforce - Payback - 7. Duane Ludwig vs. Sammy Morgan
Catchweight bout (165): Duane "Bang" Ludwig defeated Sammy Morgan via Submission (Strikes) at 2:01 of Round 1.
Read More......Strikeforce - Payback - 6. Frank Trigg vs. Falaniko Vitale
Middleweight bout: Frank Trigg defeated Falaniko Vitale via Decision (Unanimous).
Read More......Strikeforce - Payback - 5. Donnie Liles vs. Pete Spratt
Welterweight bout: Donnie Liles defeated Pete Spratt via Submission (Rear Naked Choke) at 1:59 of Round 3.
Read More......Strikeforce - Payback - 4. Billy Evangelista vs. Luke Caudillo
Lightweight bout: Billy Evangelista defeated Luke Caudillo via Decision (Unanimous).
Read More......Strikeforce - Payback - 3. Carlos Zevallos vs. Andre Walker
Lightheavyweight bout: Carlos Zevallos defeated Andre Walker via TKO (Punches) at 4:48 of Round 1.
Read More......Strikeforce - Payback - 2. Michelle Watterson vs. Tyra Parker
Michelle Watterson defeated Tyra Parker via Technical Submission (Rear Naked Choke) 1:20 of Round 1.
Read More......Strikeforce - Payback - 1. Tyler Toner vs. Ricky Johnson
Featherweight bout: Tyler Toner defeated Ricky Johnson via TKO (Punches) at 3:44 of Round 2.
Read More......Strikeforce - Payback (Predictions)
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Strikeforce: Payback will take place at the Broomfield Events Center in Broomfield, Colorado. It marks the first time Strikeforce has held an event in Colorado and the main event features a rematch between Duane Ludwig and Sammy Morgan.
Quick Hits for Strikeforce: Payback
Phil Baroni vs. Hans Marrero
Patrick Barry vs. Andre Walker
Main Card (Professional Bouts):
Duane Ludwig (165) vs. Sam Morgan (164.8)
Frank Trigg (183.8) vs. Falaniko Vitale (185.6)
Donnie Liles (170.8) vs. Pete Spratt (170.8)
Luke Caudillo (155) v. Billy Evangelista (155)
Michelle Waterson (111.4) vs. Tyra Parker (116)
Andre Walker (202.4) vs. Carlos Zevallos (205.4)
Tyler Toner (146) vs. Ricky Johnson (143.6)
Preliminary Card (Amateur Bouts):
Lumumba Sawyers (171.2) vs. Drew Dober (167.8)
Jordan Goodwin (157.6) vs. Alan Gomez (155.6)
Jeremy Malaterre (159.4) vs. Eric Galvin (160)
Brett Tillis (141.8) vs. Turrell Galloway (139.2)
Aaron Trujillo (122.8) vs. Haven Torres (126.4)
Quick Hits for Strikeforce: Payback
By Nicholas Bailey (nbailey@mmaratings.net)
Like the Strikeforce show at the playboy mansion, this card isn't going to set anyone's pants on fire, but it features a surprising number of 'name' fighters and it's an excellent popcorn event if you have HDnet (buy it if you don't) and nothing else to do Friday. On a completely unrelated note, if there are any deliciously nubile young women reading this, I am single.
In any case, There are a few fights to watch for fans of some of the former UFC fighters, and a couple betting opportunities.
Duane "Bang" Ludwig (-370) vs. Sammy Morgan (+350)
This is a rematch of Morgan's hilarious victory over Ludwig, where morgan basically walked over and punched Duane in the face. Perhaps Sammy was trying to offer an object lesson in Ludwig's greatest shortcoming as a fighter: he's a very good striker, but he has a questionable chin. The defining fight of Morgan's career, for me, was his laughable obliteration at the hands of Forrest Petz. From a trivia standpoint, I believe the scorecards on that fight were a tie for the most lopsided 3-round decision in UFC history, matched only by the abyss that was Kalib Starnes vs. Nate Quarry. Yes, Morgan's performance was that bad. I seriously recommend anyone who hasn't seen that fight pick it up, if you have the means.
Ever since having his brains scrambled in that fight, Morgan has become a one-dimensional banger that just wildly storms about the ring throwing hays, until he gasses after about 6 minutes. If Duane can avoid getting in the way of these antics, he should be able to pick his shots and put Morgan to sleep without too much fuss. This fight should be sound and fury, signifying nothing. Duane Ludwig by KO round 2.
I think these odds are just about right. Morgan's previous victory has many people taking him at these underdog odds, but Duane isn't just going to collapse against everyone he fights that can punch, weak chin or not. I will remind readers that the man absolutely murdered Jens Pulver and Charles Bennet, both of whom have more to offer than Morgan in terms of punching power and general talent.
Frank Trigg (-240) vs. Falaniko Vitale (+220)
It's good to see the always colorful Frank Trigg in the ring again, although I'm surprised to see Niko Vitale fighting outside of Hawaii. Trigg has good wrestling, decent boxing, and good power in his hands. The guy is a well-rounded, very solid fighter, even if he's not going to beat GSP anytime soon. That's why I'm surprised to see he's only moderately favored over Falaniko, who is primarily a grappler. Trigg has, in the past, simply spaced out and given up a submission (as against Carlos Condit) but most of his submission losses come from fighters that positionally dominated him (Hughes x2, GSP) and outwrestled him until he Trigg couldn't handle it anymore.
For perspective, remember the last time Frank Trigg fought a fan-favorite Hawaii-based fighter with a grappling background, mediocre wrestling, and serviceable standup? It was Mayhem Miller, and Trigg curb-stomped his face off. And Miller is a far superior fighter to Niko. Frank Trigg via TKO round 2.
At -260, I think Frank Trigg's skill set is being undervalued, especially given that his losses have been to very talented fighters and champions, and he seems to be an even better fighter at 185 pounds. I think this is a very good play, for two units.
Pete Spratt (-113) vs. Donnie Liles (+103)
Spratt is a phenomenal athlete with violent traditional muay thai and boxing skills that washed out of the UFC and was generally relegated to journeyman status because he can't wrestle very well and has serious, serious problems with his ground game. He's one of those fighters that's living proof that no matter how gifted you are in one area of the game, or how hard you work, some people just will never be great at the aspects of MMA that don't come naturally to them.
On paper, Liles grappling background and submission wins represent a real threat to Spratt. However, the general 'quality' gap is just too great for Liles to realistically overcome. Spratt can do a phenomenal amount of damage to his opponent, with very fast and brutal leg and head kicks as well as powerful hands. Liles will have trouble simply surviving on the feet, and dealing with the explosive power of Spratt. Pete Spratt by Headkick round 2.
Again, while many people think Liles is a smart pick because of the possibility of a submission, I think Spratt is simply too quality of a fighter not to be the right side of this line at close to even odds. The risk of him falling into a submission is there, but it's not anywhere close to 50/50. I have a unit on him at -120
My Plays:
1u Pete Spratt at -120
2u Frank Trigg at -260
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October 1, 2008
Elite XC on CBS II
By Nicholas Bailey (nbailey@mmaratings.net)
As I previously outlined, EliteXC is in quite a bind with this show, and that really doesn't change, regardless of who owns it. This is an excellent card, but it needs to draw like one in order to solidify the promotion's future.
While any card that has both Kimbo and Ken Shamrock (nevermind Kimbo vs. Ken Shamrock) has a bit of a circus atmosphere, outside of the main event, the card is stacked with the talent hardcore fans feel Kimbo lacks. The addition of Andrei Arlovski really puts the card over the top, in terms of legitimacy, but Ninja Rua, Gina Carano, and Jake Shields would have made the card worth watching on their own. Not to mention the undercard features the most vicious woman in MMA in Cris Cyborg, alongside the TUF washouts and former IFL talent that are everywhere these days.
Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson (-325) vs. Ken Shamrock (+358)
Clash of the titans this is not. It would be a much shorter list if I were to break down the strengths of Ken Shamrock, but it's his many flaws that make him such a walkover for Kimbo. Ken has a terrible chin, being floored by Sakuraba, finished by phantom blocked jabs from Buzz Berry, and dazed by Tito Ortiz's typically underwhelming ground and pound. Kimbo hits hard, so that's a bad start for Ken, but it gets worse. Ken has awful gas and his heart will explode if the fight goes to the second round. That's great for Kimbo, because even if Kimbo gasses as badly as he did aginst Thompson, Shamrock will be miles ahead of him, most likely already in an ambulance sucking oxygen. Shamrock is a tiny heavyweight, has shot knees, and is generally a broken-down old man. Again, this is great news for Kimbo, since it means the far superior athlete can power out of bad positions and avoid being muscled to the ground, where he's weakest. Ken's standup is poor; he punches like a brawler, but doesn't seem to have any power behind his shots, and leaving yourself open and trading shots when you have a glass chin is simply foolish. Worst of all, Ken's lone finishing threat, his submissions, consists of "low-percentage" leglocks that will result in giving up position if they fail. From his back, Ken will either be pounded out in short order, or have to stand back up as Kimbo pulls out and forces the engagement to the feet again.
Kimbo's strengths aren't herculean, but they are more than enough to get the job done in this case. He's a big, strong, athletic guy. He has good hands, decent power, and is very aggressive. His lack of technical wrestling ability will be counteracted by his size, speed, and power when he's facing a smaller, older man with bad knees who was never a great wrestler in the first place. If Kimbo ends up on his back with Ken on top of him, he's in a very dangerous position, since he appeared to be totally useless there against the never-impressive James Thompson. However, I think it's unlikely Kimbo ends up there, and even if he does, he has a decent chance of rolling out or escaping when Shamrock goes for a leglock. Or even pulling a repeat of Ian Freeman vs. Frank Mir and just hammering his way out of it. I think many of the problems Kimbo had with Thompson were due to the fact that James is an enormous and very strong guy, which will not be the case with Ken. Kimbo Slice by KO round 1.
At -325, Kimbo is being strongly favored over Shamrock, but I really don't think that line is properly set for as big a mismatch as this fight is. I have placed a sizeable (3u) wager here.
Champ Jake Shields (-550) vs. Paul Daley (+400) (for the EliteXC welterweight title)
Shields is an incredibly good grappler that would threaten most of those in the UFC at 170 lbs. He traditionally wins by outwrestling his opponents and positionally dominating them for a decision, but has recently been much more aggressive with his submissions, resulting in lots more finishes. That's good, because this is a 5 round fight and the more time he spends in the cage with Daley, the better his chance of losing. Shields should easily defeat Daley, although Daley has a lot of punching power, he's had trouble and lost to much smaller fighters that are worse grapplers than Shields. His striking will simply have very little effect on the outcome of the fight, because he'll be on his back with Shields advancing position very early in the fight. Jake Shields by submission round 1 (arm triangle).
If you're a big Daley fan, then a small wager on him at these long odds might add spice to this fight, but it will most likely just add sourness to his defeat, so I'd suggest saving your money for popcorn.
Andrei Arlovski(-455) vs. Roy Nelson (+375)
Visually one of the more hilarious matchups on the card, this should be an entertaining, if one-sided fight. Arlovski is a far superior athlete to Nelson, who is tough and game, so he'll probably stick around and take a serious pounding. Nelson can win the fight from top position since he's a good grappler with aggressive ground and pound and Arlovski is fragile, or Nelson could get into a slugfest and bomb Arlovski out. However, I find this latter unlikely since Arlo often shies away from fighters that can bang him back, although he did not hesitate against Rothwell as badly as against Werdum, he still kept his distance and played it smart rather than just banging away, even though he was the far better striker. Nelson is a big, powerful guy, but Arlovski showed very good wrestling against Jake O'Brien, who is a better and more athletic wrestler than Nelson. This will all be compounded by the fact that Nelson is a good deal shorter than Arlovski and his belly will make him less mobile. I expect Arlovski to work from the outside, move in and out and bloody Roy up with combos while Roy works hard to get inside and land big punches. Eventually either the damage will pile up or Arlovski will simply land "the big one" and Nelson will topple over and get pounded to a stoppage. Andre Arlovski by KO round 2.
These odds seem about right to me. I think it may be possible to make a play on Arlovski as the fights draw nearer, as the odds may move against him since so many people find Nelson's fatboy style compelling, and remember that Arlovski's chin isn't rock-solid.
Gina Carano (-469) vs. Kelly Kobold-Gavin (+450)
Gina will have a tougher time with Kobald than many are expecting. Kelly can really hammer for a woman, where knockout power is a rarer commodity at any weight. However, that's what she throws: hammers one after the other, right left right left. If that's what she brings to the table, Gina will eat it up and outstrike her. Gina will probably hit harder and will definitely have a striking and reach advantage, and she'll punch right down the pipe into the middle of Kelly's face. Kobold has an excellent chin, but there's only so much punishment one can take. Kobald is very stocky and will likely be just as strong as Gina, which will be interesting since Gina usually greatly outsizes her opponents and bullies them. Kobold likes to drive into a clinch and get rough against the cage, and it would be interesting to see how Gina does if she is overpowered and bullied.
There are questions about either one of them making weight. I expect Gina to look thinner than ever at the weigh in, and sail through, but Kelly was reportedly pretty heavy a week out from the fight. Kelly could ground and pound Gina if she gets Carano down, which would be very bad for Gina, since Kelly's stubby arms make for some vicious punches on the ground and in the clinch. I don't think Gina wants anything to do with Kelly on the ground. Gina is still very untested on the ground, and I think this will be a good, challenging fight for her. The short rounds should work in her favor, as it will not give ground and pound time to develop and accumulate damage. Gina Carano by decision.
Kobold opened up at +525 on Bodog, assigning her a 16% chance of victory, which I think significantly underprices her assets here. I think this is partially because so few people follow female MMA that Gina's 'name value' is huge in comparison to Kelly's. Gina does have the advantages here, but Kobold has a number of ways to win, which I think are much more likely. This is money I expect to lose most of the time, but the payoff is such that there is value in this bet.
Benji Radach (+190) vs. Murilo "Ninja" Rua (-205)
Ninja has struggled a lot in the past, but has literally only lost to top competition, many of whom significantly outsized him (the ridiculous spectacle against Sergei Kharitonov, anyone?). Ninja's problems are that he doesn't punch very hard, tends to leave himself open and punch from a fixed position square-on to his opponent, and has poor wrestling. He is very aggressive and can hurt non-strikers on the feet, but his best skill is his ground game. He can be bombed out by very heavy hitters like Kang, Randleman, Lawler, and Sergei, but he also can go the distance with bruisers like Rampage. He's actually lost to every top level fighter he's faced that is a big puncher, and Benji can certainly punch hard. However, Benji also gets stopped by worse fighters than Ninja, and Ninja has the ground skills to overwhelm Radach. I think this will simply be a case of quality winning out, and Ninja will find a way to finish Benji off, possibly handing him his first submission. Murillo Rua via submission round 2.
I have a lot of faith in Ninja here, so I made a play on him personally at -205. However, I'm not making it part of my official predictions, and I advise it only for Ninja fans.
Cristiane "Cyborg" Santos (-625) vs. Yoko Takahashi (+475)
This fight is notable since it's possibly the worst mismatch on the card. Cyborg is a straight killer, violently obliterating women of all sorts, but especially those used to the softer punches most female fighters offer. Yoko's only chance is on the floor, and Cyborg has a better ground game than her husband. She'll most likely obliterate Yoko in a horribly violent way, wherever the fight takes place. It's too bad stomps aren't allowed, because Cris loves to cave in other girls faces with them. Cristiane "Cyborg" Santos via KO (Mugging) round 1.
My Official Plays:
3u on Kimbo Slice at -325
1u on Kelly Kobold at +525
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